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Thread ID: 41074 2003-12-29 09:21:00 Time to call in the Big Guns :-) Tobas (224) Press F1
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203890 2003-12-29 09:21:00 Problem started with comp shutting down after a few seconds.

Tried a replacement power supply with a known good one - no change.

Changed the boot order so A drive booted first with an ME boot disk in it but no change.

Don't know what happened next but comp does not shut down now, but instead displays a "No signal input" message drifting round the screen.
Tried this screen on another computer but it works well.

2x128 mb ram. Took all out, nothing happened, put one back in, no change, swapped ram - no change.

Checked video cable pins but none bent etc.

Tried 5 other video cards but same no sig input on every card.

Tried reseating the CPU - no change.

Gave it a couple of thumps on the top right hand corner of the case - no change :-)

MB MS6163pro, CPU Celeron 300 mhz slot A?, 2x128 SDRam, 40 gig HDD Pri Master, 10 gig HDD pri slave. OP sys Win ME.

Monitor KTC Classic.

What have I overlooked :-( The machine is set to boot from the floppy drive, so CD's won't work. Help please!!
Tobas (224)
203891 2003-12-29 10:35:00 > Changed the boot order so A drive booted first with
> an ME boot disk in it but no change .

That should eliminate software, so its hardware related .

> Don't know what happened next but comp does not shut
> down now, but instead displays a "No signal input"
> message drifting round the screen .

That message is not coming from the PC .
Its simply the monitor saying the PC is not sending a signal .

I would say from your other tests that the PC is simply not booting at all .

Could be CPU, Motherboard, or one of 1,347 other things . . .
godfather (25)
203892 2003-12-29 10:40:00 try resetting your Bios if possible usually hold down delete key as yuou reboot on my PC , you can also use the jumper on mother board to do a reset kiwibeat (304)
203893 2003-12-29 19:41:00 Thanks for your thoughts Godfather - guess it's time to play the substitution game - pull everything - test everything - put together - no change :-)

Kiwibeat - Nothing is displayed on screen so very difficult to reset bios :-)

Perhaps it is just getting too old and needs to be retired :-0
Tobas (224)
203894 2003-12-29 22:26:00 well please don't make it go to the rubbish bin..... ilikelinux (1418)
203895 2003-12-29 22:55:00 you didn't mention the type of video card but I have seen AGP slots 'die'........so if you can if it's a agp put in a pci or vice versa drcspy (146)
203896 2003-12-30 00:43:00 Hi DRCSPY, tried 1x ISA, 4xPCI and 2x AGP.

They did nothing, but then again, as it does not even start to boot, I cannot make any alterations to drivers etc.

Thanks for the input though.
Tobas (224)
203897 2003-12-30 00:53:00 Nah, once I have decided enough is enough, I will salvage the bits I can and of course rebuild. But a bit more grunt than a Celeron 300 :-)

The machine was used only as a word processor and despite its age, was quite satisfactory, tis a shame really :-(

Oh well perhaps it's RIP Natasha (It's her name) - I'll clone her bits and pieces into something she would be proud of :-) :-)
Tobas (224)
203898 2003-12-30 00:57:00 Sorry Kiwibeat, missread your post. I will look for the manual to find the bios pins and give it a try.

Thanks
Tobas (224)
203899 2003-12-30 03:21:00 Take a careful look at the motherboard .........see the little 'cylinder' thingys all over the place?.......capacators.............check em carefully to see if any look kinda 'bulgy' on the tops ........if that's the case then that'll most likely be your problem............they do deteriorate and then they need to be replaced............soldering on the mobo is 'fun' so be careful if that's what turns out to be the prob

LUCK
drcspy (146)
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