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| Thread ID: 41128 | 2003-12-31 01:42:00 | OT Telecom do it again | Odin (227) | Press F1 |
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| 204376 | 2004-01-05 23:45:00 | You do not pay Telecom anything for your internet access so are you saying you should get the phone line connection free for your internet connection | Jim B (153) | ||
| 204377 | 2004-01-05 23:47:00 | no i aint, i'm saying it shouldnt be at the full cost of a voice used line | csinclair83 (200) | ||
| 204378 | 2004-01-06 00:56:00 | > Does that sound feasible (swap in plausible if you like ;) ) ? Mmmmm...........?:| This looks supiciously like a circular argument (debate?). I don't think it can (or ever will be) be reconciled here, but do you have any idea how ISDN lines are costed/charged? They are data only as I understand it. Sometimes differentiating costs for a small number of customers ends up costing more than just paying the standard charge. Cheers Billy 8-{) :| |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 204379 | 2004-01-06 12:28:00 | >>You do not pay Telecom anything for your internet access so are you saying you should get the phone line connection free for your internet connection . Not at all Jim, just the voice component if it's not used . Chris's situation is a case in point and as per Billy's last post it may not be worth the administration to facilitate that type of service . Service though, is an apt word in this context especially if you put customer or community in front of it . ISDN would be a tricky one as I understand the tech, it's two lines (at the exchange) into one to double 56k dialup so its a switching issue more than physical capacity, I think?? The same could apply could it not . Without someone spilling what I guess would be some "commercialy sensitive" beans, It's speculation and yes, we're into one of those that cannot be satisfactorily resolved . It can be fun trying though, if a little pointless . Cheers Murray AP |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 204380 | 2004-01-07 01:14:00 | The first time I got hit with a $6 late payment fee just after it came out, I had my Caller ID taken off. In November I got hit with another late payment fee, I rang Telecom up, they said well you should pay by automatic payment, Well some people don't have money growing on trees, besides the neighbors would nick it. I said you jokers get $500 a year from me, I don't get any flyby's points, go, I think your $6 late payment change is a rip, disconnect me. So now I don't have a phone at home, and I like that extra $40 I have in my pocket each month. Have a merry New Year everyone. |
hay u (5059) | ||
| 204381 | 2004-01-07 08:31:00 | uh okay um sorry murray p and billy t... but I thought voip used compression technology different to what's being used for normal voice over copper? ie jetstream use's a different fequency range to normal telephone so hence a different signal strengh/stream ( hell I don't know what it's called ) so wouldn't it be worth doing a cost benefit analysis into looking at moving internet ( say broadband ) users exclusively voip? This would free up normal/conventional phone lines ( sts ) for non internet people ( I do remember telecom complaining that 56k users were using too many phone lines ) and get more broadband users?? and finally we'd be using that trans-atlantic cable like it was ment to be used!! :D anyway probably what I've posted makes no sense... :( :) |
zminos (5010) | ||
| 204382 | 2004-02-01 05:03:00 | Unbundling the loop. I guess that won't happened because maybe Telecom linked it to the Kiwi Share. Telecom bought all of the lines, (In fact everything) provided we got our Kiwi Share of free local calls. Telecom hates the Kiwi Share, they tried to do away with it a few years ago because of us spending 24/7/365 on dial up connections. Which Telecom only knows are internet because of the ISP phone numbers we dial. Meaning there is no difference to a voice call. They are losing heaps of $$$$ as compared to Telecoms overseas. They can "unbundle the loop" overseas where they charge for local calls by the minute. I think Germany is one. Telecom must have said, if you take the lines away from NZ Telecom, that will invalidate the Kiwi Share agreement If Telecom has to unbundle the loop, then its big investment in telephone exchanges starts loosing money being used less because other Telcos will invest in their own. There was also the issue of number portabity which Telecom does not like. So if you shop around after unbundling the loop (if it ever happens) following the best prices, each time you change you will end up with a new number. How many businesses will want that? Finally, if Unbundling happens, will other Telcos have to abide by the Kiwi Share or not? |
Peter Pecka (4984) | ||
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