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| Thread ID: 41128 | 2003-12-31 01:42:00 | OT Telecom do it again | Odin (227) | Press F1 |
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| 204366 | 2004-01-05 02:48:00 | > I had a look at your link,and it is indeed a gross > amount of money to pay anyone to go to work. Indeed it would seem from your/my perspective, however if you were the lucky sod, I doubt you'd be complaining :D |
Chilling_Silently (228) | ||
| 204367 | 2004-01-05 02:53:00 | > So if something is discussed in a less then glowing > manner then its whinging? Two issues here are abolute: 1) Everybody wants to go to Heaven, but nobody wants to die. 2) Salary envy eclipses even **nis envy. Nuff said Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 204368 | 2004-01-05 02:58:00 | Quite happy not to go to heaven,I cant think of any thing worse then eternal life surounded by christians going "i told you so".Maybe eternal life bathed in hellfire with christians going "i told you so" would be worse. ...................HA And im quite happy with the money i make,As long as i get an honest days pay for an honest days work then im quite satisfied. |
metla (154) | ||
| 204369 | 2004-01-05 04:52:00 | This christian god couldn't even stop the roof collapsing on his followers church, killing 18 people in Ethiopia a few days ago. I stopped believing in god when I helped at a fatal car crash at Sanson with nuns killed, when I was a teenager. I want anything to do with a god like that Bill Gates my god/idol. Theresa G is my telecommunication angel she deserves every penny she gets. She is one cool lady. She is not snobby and she is full of enthusiasm. I have flown with women pilots and crewmen (still crewmen even if chicks) in airforce helicopters before. I now think that generaly women are better than men in everything but physical stuff. Please stop bashing MS and telecom in this forum otherwise I will spend my time surfing porn. And another thing which rips me up here when people cut and paste your replies on their reply and then proceed to criticise you, letter by letter, word by word ,sentence by sentence please stop doing this to me. tedheath |
tedheath (537) | ||
| 204370 | 2004-01-05 07:15:00 | > > So if something is discussed in a less then > glowing > > manner then its whinging? > > Two issues here are abolute: > > 1) Everybody wants to go to Heaven, but nobody wants > to die. > > 2) Salary envy eclipses even **nis envy. > > Nuff said > > Cheers > > Billy 8-{) I like that Billy |
Baldy (26) | ||
| 204371 | 2004-01-05 09:38:00 | We could limit telecoms profits by only buying jetstream then use VOIP for all calls. | skinnerjack (4296) | ||
| 204372 | 2004-01-05 11:39:00 | > > So if something is discussed in a less then > glowing > > manner then its whinging? > > Two issues here are abolute: > > 1) Everybody wants to go to Heaven, but nobody wants > to die. > > 2) Salary envy eclipses even **nis envy. > > Nuff said > > Cheers > > Billy 8-{) Apologies to Ted but, I've got to quote Billy on this one. Billy, your 2 absolutes are neither that nor are they relevant to this debate. I don't think the 1st one needs any further comment in this forum. Remuneration (they are not salaries or earnings) of that size are only justified when no other way can be found to employ a competent person to do the job. There is plenty of argument for and against such massive payments but I don't believe it is entirely market driven or based on a fair reward for the work done. IMO there is a certain amount of ego, keeping up with the Jones' and plain old business sense in having a CEO who can foot it with her peers in all respects (or at least have the image). That doesn't make it any more palatable for the shareholders though, as it shouldn't, checks and balances are a requirement for any functioning economy. Which brings me to the monopoly question. If nobody stood up and whinged long and loud, I have no doubt that our position as consumers would be much harsher than it is. Not the worst in the worlds but, could be so much better given NZ's relative wealth and geographical size. I also can't see why someone who does not want to use the phone service has to pay full rate for it in order to get the ADSL component. It would be relatively easy to build in an infrastructure charge along with the ADSL and drop the call component. BTW, I'm a little confused as to who is envious of who, I assume that "**nis envy" is not gender specific ;). Of course I stand to be corrected, as per usual :) Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 204373 | 2004-01-05 21:11:00 | Nuff said meant nuff said, but since that particular post was strictly tongue in cheek (from my perspective anyway) I just have to ask you one clarifying question Murray >I also can't see why someone who does not want to use the phone >service has to pay full rate for it in order to get the ADSL component . It >would be relatively easy to build in an infrastructure charge along with >the ADSL and drop the call component . From your point of view, what part of the service provider's infrastructure (including cabling etc) does an adsl user require that is any different to (or separate from) a voice call, except of course for the adsl card at the user's local exchange which I am told has a channel dedicated to each user, three to a card . The way I see it, the line is in use regardless of the data it carries, and Telecom charges not one cent more for simultaneous adsl and speech use on the same line pair . Serious question, no fish hooks . :| Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 204374 | 2004-01-05 23:27:00 | > >I also can't see why someone who does not want to > use the phone >service has to pay full rate for it in > order to get the ADSL component . It >would be > relatively easy to build in an infrastructure charge > along with >the ADSL and drop the call component . > > From your point of view, what part of the service > provider's infrastructure (including cabling etc) > does an adsl user require that is any different to > (or separate from) a voice call, except of course for > the adsl card at the user's local exchange which I > am told has a channel dedicated to each user, three > to a card . > > The way I see it, the line is in use regardless of > the data it carries, and Telecom charges not one cent > more for simultaneous adsl and speech use on the same > line pair . > > Serious question, no fish hooks . :| > > Cheers > > Billy 8-{) Exactly my point Billy . You've hit the nail in the head better than I could . You require a telephone line in to use ADSL . Within the cost of that line you are charged for: Voice calls (fixed fee), capital costs or infrastructure, maintenance, service support (123), wire maintenance contract, profit margin and whatever else Telecom needs to recover costs from and make money like marketing, web site, fixed assets, etc . (In theory, part of Teresa's income is derived from profit, a la the bonus and share components) . When you hook up a modem to the line and ADSL is activated at the exchange you are charged an additional sum to cover: Specific hardware/infrastructure, data usage and bandwidth, maintenance, service support, marketing, profit margin, etc . If voice calls are not being made, why can't the voice, 123 support and marketing be dropped out and only pay for the data/bandwidth and associated costs? It may not make a huge difference to the overall cost but, as per other posts, every bit helps . The technical aspects should not be too hard to implement with a call bar and tweak of the billing software doing the job . I don't see the need for a dedicated data only line myself but it seems to be attractive to some people . Telecom would require a certain take-up to make it viable though . Does that sound feasible (swap in plausible if you like ;) ) ? Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 204375 | 2004-01-05 23:35:00 | and what about ppl who use 56k and not use the phone? like me..i'm deaf and i use the internet quite often...and phone is never used apart from the odd neighbour coming in to use it b4 they got their line activated...but yeah i use it as a decidated internet line as am deaf and phone useage is not possible... but i still have to pay the $35 or something a month for the line...when i dont even use the line apart from for internet access... if prices were cheaper i'd have gone wireless and have absoultely no line with telecom... |
csinclair83 (200) | ||
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