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Thread ID: 41364	2004-01-08 20:52:00	USB 2.0 Embedded Card Reader	tonyclark (4466)	Press F1

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206110	2004-01-08 20:52:00	I have just bought an Apacer USB 2.0 Embedded Card Reader, from DSE, to fit in the 3.5in drive bay. I have plugged embedded card reader in the motherboard and the computer will not boot up. It fails on the system configuration info screen (before booting W2k) with the curser on the line: DDR at Row(s): 0 2. The curser is blinking under the 2. The motherboard has USB2 pins on it and these work with another USB device plugged into it. I have returned the embedded card reader to the shop and received a replacement, but it behaves the same. My mother board is a Gigabyte 845GE P4 2.4 ghz with 512meg ram, and USB2 pins to plug the card reader in to. USB has been enabled when installed. Any suggestions please?	tonyclark (4466)
206111	2004-01-08 21:23:00	Make sure you are connecting the USB reader cables in the correct order or the right way round. There are a few different ways to connect these USB cables so check in the manual and it will tell you which is PIN1 etc and also which cable goes where. Are the cables from the USB2.0 card reader labeled with something like VCC - USB- - USB+ - GND ? In your mainboard manual it should tell you where each one goes.	CYaBro (73)
206112	2004-01-09 00:02:00	I fitted one of these and remember it wasn't quite a simple operation. I needed to check the pin layout closely from memory, but it works and works well.	godfather (25)
206113	2004-01-09 04:47:00	Yes, there are labels on the plug and I have plugged them onto the correct pins on the motherboard. The card reader has the usual card slots in the front panel, and also has a USB outlet as well. There are two cables from the card reader, when I have one of them plugged in the motherboard, the computer boots up ok and I can use the USB outlet on the front panel of the card reader to connect to another USB device, and this works OK. If I shut down and swap plugs, so that the card reader part is plugged in, then I get the boot problem suggesting a fault with the card reader, but as I have swapped it for another at the shop, I think the problem is elsewhere.	tonyclark (4466)
206114	2004-01-19 08:27:00	Hmmm I have one of these internal readers running on an Asus P4P800 . Is there an option in your BIOS called Mass storage device? As this is what the reader is . Once you get it going it'll give you 4 removable drives . Also, if there's an option in BIOS, with something like High Speed/Normal enable it . (somewhere in the same place as the USB option)? The reader once connected, will also give you a front USB 2 port on the front of the reader . What version of Windows, have you got? If XP you may need SP1 to make use of USB2 . And what other USB 1/2 devices are plugged in? And how many watts is your power supply? With the cable from the reader, both are meant to go to the USB header, on the motherboard . One USB header is 2 rows . (9 pins all up) Like this . The colours below are the colours on the reader cable (and how they should be connected to one USB header) . Top row of USB header (this is looking at the header left to right) . . . . Red White Green Black . (5th pin) - (nothing connected) Bottom row of header . . . . . Red White Green Black you'll notice, the top USB header may have 5 pins . Don't worry about putting anything on the 5th pin	Spacemannz (808)
206115	2004-01-19 08:48:00	I have the same Embedded Card Reader on a ASUS P4PE mobo and didn't need to change anything in the BIOS (using XP + SP1). You just have to make sure the connectors are on the correct pins and pushed down firmly - they are quite small and fiddley to attach. Worked first pop for me. As this post is a bit old now, it would be interesting to know if the original poster got it working in the end.	Jen C (20)
206116	2004-01-19 17:05:00	Yup some newsgroups I've read seem to have probs, with Mass storage devices. I spose it depends on whether the mobo is capableof handling 1 or not. Most, would/should. Well, maybe the older/more recent mobos.	Spacemannz (808)
206117	2004-01-20 04:50:00	Thanks for all your comments. I have been in touch with the Apacer support people, and they sent me a patch file to upgrade the card reader firmware, and after that it worked. The computer now boots up OK. I dont know what the upgrade did. The card reader has another problem though, it occaisionally disconnects itself from the USB and as far as I know the only way to get it back is to reboot. It is as though there is an intermittant connection problem on the card reader circuit board. I will probably take it back to DSE and get another one. ( I have done this already for the initial boot problem, so I will now have to upgrade the firmware in the next replacement one also). Any comments? Tony.	tonyclark (4466)
206118	2004-01-20 05:03:00	You seem to be having a run of bad luck with the card reader. >it occaisionally disconnects itself from the USB and as far as I know the only way to get it back is to reboot. What happens? Do the devices disappear from under My Computer? What happens if you just pop a memory card into one of the slots when it appears to have disconnected?	Jen C (20)
206119	2004-01-20 05:09:00	Oh . Didnt know you could upgrade it, with firmware! What else have u got in the way of USB 1/2 Tony? As in devices? plugged it ya pc? It maybe either wired wrong, or you have too many USB devices plugged in, or your power supply isnt enough to handle the USB devices . Are you just using the onboard USB, or have you got a HUB as well? And what does your USB header look like? do the pins go across the mobo, like this - . . . . . or are they on the side? (go down the side) like this? . . . .	Spacemannz (808)
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