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Thread ID: 41331	2004-01-07 09:23:00	Fedora - networking with XP and one other question	John H (8)	Press F1

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205908	2004-01-07 09:23:00	Hi I have the latest version of Fedora working successfully on my laptop. It is able to connect to the internet through my network, and it can see the other computers on the network and retrieve files from them. It lists WORKGROUP as the network under Network Servers. So far, so good. Unfortunately, I cannot get the WinXP computers on the network to see and communicate with the Fedora laptop. They can see it when it is booted in WinXP, so it is not a hardware problem. My desktop can ping the Fedora laptop using Advanced IP Scanner. The Fedora IP address is alive, and the scanner gives the name of the computer at that address as "C/R" whatever that means. The other live computers have their proper computer names as given to them in XP. I have not found where I can enter a name for the Fedora laptop, or the name of the network (WORKGROUP). Maybe this is the problem? Can someone please enlighten me as to what I may be doing wrong? The second question - I have updated the Core Kernel twice - once following installation, and today when a new Kernel was notified through the Red Hat Network. When I boot, Grub shows the three kernels and I can choose between them and Windoze. Could someone please tell me whether the two "outdated" kernels need to stay there, or whether older versions can be uninstalled somehow. (If so, how is this done?) I have been wondering how long this can go on before the Fedora partition will be filled up with redundant (?) kernels (if they are in fact redundant...) Grateful thanks for any help. John	John H (8)
205909	2004-01-07 09:39:00	>and it can see the other computers on the network and retrieve files from them. How are you achieving this? Do you have Samba server installed?	JohnD (509)
205910	2004-01-07 12:12:00	To be honest, the kernels are around 1.5MB each.. If you let it auto-partition then it will have given you a 100MB /boot partition which holds your kernels. To be honest I wouldnt delete them, but rather put a # as the first char in each line in /etc/grub.conf (must be root to edit it) to comment the lines out so they wont appear, but are there should you need for some odd reason. You should be able to hold a good 40 kernels.. No need to worry there :-) And as JohnD mentioned, you need Samba installed. run: redhat-config-packages and grab it off your Install CD's if you forgot to install it :-) It'll be under networking Cheers Chill.	Chilling_Silently (228)
205911	2004-01-07 23:56:00	>How are you achieving this? Do you have Samba server installed? Um, I think I do. I installed samba-client-3.0.0.15.1386.rpm, and when that seemed to make no observable difference, I installed samba-3.0.0.15.1386.rpm (both downloaded from the Fedora site), and after the latter installation (or some other wondrous event such as rebooting!) I was able to see the WORKGROUP on the Fedora laptop and get into each of the other networked computers and transfer files. I haven't cracked the shared printing yet... However, despite the fact that Windoze can ping the Fedora laptop, it still refuses to show up in the WORKGROUP. That is what I want to solve, and cannot do so. Thanks John	John H (8)
205912	2004-01-08 00:03:00	>To be honest, the kernels are around 1.5MB each.. Oh, that seems odd. I have yet another update (just half an hour ago) and like yesterday it was an over 12Mb download. As the download instructions don't say there is anything in the download other than the kernel, I was assuming it was 12Mb a shot. Thanks for your suggestions though. I have plenty of room left in the partition even at 12Mb a pop. Re the networking - as you will see from my reply to JohnD, I am pretty sure I do have Samba installed. When I look for Network Servers on the Start Menu, Nautilus brings up the address smb://john, which is the name of the main desktop, and WORKGROUP is shown in the window. Opening WORKGROUP gives me access to the other computers. As I said earlier, I don't have any problems with the Fedora laptop accessing the network - the problem is trying to get the Windoze computers in the network to "see" the Fedora laptop as part of the WORKGROUP. Thus far I have not been able to solve that. Thanks John	John H (8)
205913	2004-01-08 00:35:00	That's because Linux likes sharing files in a different way from Microsoft's SMB protocol (Which Win9x/NT/2K/XP use). Basically, you'll need to setup your /etc/samba/smb.conf file. This will start you off with an insecure smb.conf file (Everybody on the LAN can view with Read-Only or Write access... Copy and paste this into a new file and save it as /etc/samba/smb.conf Then start the samba service. Best way for n00b's is redhat-config-services. josiah $ cat /etc/samba/smb.conf # ===Global Settings === [global] log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd load printers = yes passwd chat = Newpassword* %n\n Retypenewpassword %n\n passwd:allauthenticationtokensupdatedsuccess fully* socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 obey pam restrictions = yes encrypt passwords = yes passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u dns proxy = no server string = amd athlon xp 1700+ Slackware 9.1 printing = lprng unix password sync = Yes workgroup = bedroom os level = 20 printcap name = /etc/printcap security = share max log size = 0 pam password change = yes [Misc Files] path = /mnt/hdc1/Misc guest ok = yes writeable = no [transfer] comment = Transfer Folder writeable = yes guest ok = yes path = /transfer [Install] comment = My Install Files guest ok = yes path = /Install [Music] path = /Music guest ok = yes comment = My MP3 Collection read only = yes [Vidz] path = /Vidz guest ok = yes comment = My Music Vidz [DVD] path = /mnt/cdrom public = yes #End of file... You can also try using redhat-config-samba, although Ive never used it, it might help you there :-) What that will do is setup the equiv of Network Shares from your Fedora box. JohnD has written a samba faq and keeps it on his website, maybe he'll post the URL coz I wouldnt have a clue. Look back through mine and his posts for samba and it'll shed some light :-) Hope this helps Chill.	Chilling_Silently (228)
205914	2004-01-08 04:31:00	>Hope this helps >Chill. Whoopdedoo! That worked! It took a while cos I had to figure out how to edit smb.conf cos I didn't have permissions - then I worked out how to login as root and it happened from there. At first I didn't notice that you had named the workgroup "BEDROOM" - a curious name Chill - presumably descriptive of the location of your network server? So I changed the name of the workgroup on all computers and it all fired up so all computers see each other. The next thing was to share the printer attached to the main desktop, and that wouldn't go until I noticed that it had a share name that was a truncated form of the name on its icon (I had been entering the latter rather than the share name). Sheesh. Once the share name was entered it was a happening thing. So now I have a Linux partition on one of my laptops, and it does everything except WiFi - there is no Linux driver for it at this stage, but apparently it is "in development" by Intel... So thank you guys. I am not sure what to do with the Linux partition now, but it was fun to get it going! I must say I prefer Redhat Fedora to Mandrake 9.2. The latter was my first attempt at Linux, and I thought it looked ugly and was not very intuitive. This has been much more straightforward - with the help of John D and Chilling_Silently of course. Thanks again. John	John H (8)
205915	2004-01-08 04:34:00	Oh, one last question if I may. When I log off, it shows "Power down" as the last screen entry, then just sits there without shutting off like a Windoze box. As it is a laptop, the only way to power down is to slip the battery out (which takes three hands and long finger nails on this thing) and/or switch off mains power. Is there some way I can reconfigure Fedora so it does the power down the way Windoze does at shut down? Thanks again John	John H (8)
205916	2004-01-08 04:38:00	Just thought I would post from Linux. Whoopee :8}	John H (8)
205917	2004-01-08 05:13:00	i am haveing a problem like this one, but it is the other way around. xp computers can see my computers, but i cant see them, when i start "network servers" it says " Couldn't display "smb:///", because Nautilus cannot contact the SMB master browser. Check that an SMB server is running in the local network." how do i fix this? xp machines have stuff shared.	ilikelinux (1418)
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