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206580 2004-01-12 01:48:00 >Buy it! I aint paying for their buggy, hole-ridden software

Horses for courses I guess, I started with W3.11/DOS 6.22 and progressed through W95 to W98 (which I still use) and W2000.

I am using the latter three systems daily in business across a 6 computer network and I've had no bug problems. Everything is kept up to date (except W95 sadly) I don't surf shonky sites or download doubtful software and I have a relatively trouble free existence as a result.

Incidentally, I have never had to reformat any HDD or reinstall W95 or W98 since their original installations. I have reinstalled W98 from a Ghost Image twice when I botched up software installations but since that just restores to the previous well used setup it doesn't count as a reinstallation in my book.

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :|
Billy T (70)
206581 2004-01-12 01:52:00 > > I'm more concerned about what's going out. I won't
> > permit internet access to anything unless it is
> > needed by me for some use.
>
> My point exactly. ZoneAlarm stops any unapproved
> outgoings, so what is there to keep singing about.
> It is brain-dead simple.

One who thinks a software based firewall running on windows is making them safe is a person who does not understand software based firewalls.

To be truley safe you need an external hardware based firewall.

One who thinks a software based firewall can block ALL outgoing connections is truley brain dead <grin >

>
> If in doubt, say no.
>
> Cheers
>
> Billy 8-{)
ugh1 (4204)
206582 2004-01-12 02:17:00 Er, no, because running a hardware firewall is more a matter of convenience.

I don't want to be running a hardware firewall just to be completely safe when I am connecting to the internet via my dial-up account, from one computer at a time.

My software firewall does a good enough job for me, and besides, if Microsoft have built in reserved unseen bandwidth and stuff (as mentioned previously in this thread), I've got nothing to hide from them.
agent (30)
206583 2004-01-12 04:53:00 Sorry Uggy, I should have mentioned that I hide behind a NAT router as well, but just the same, for the average user a software firewall with outgoing permissions restricted will provide perfectly adequate protection, even more so if the user is on dial up and not permanently on-line. ZA is as effective as any software firewall can be and it is better than most.

There is just far too much paranoia about computers sending data without their users' knowledge and it is unlikely to happen to those who steer clear of sites that carry spyware and other nasties.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
206584 2004-01-12 04:59:00 > > If you're both really that paranoid that you dont
> trust the software, then try Solaris, Linux, or even
> BSD
> Linux... Yeah sure easy to use... but to setup, now
> thats the definition of a biatch!
HA!

Now thats a laugh!!!!

When was the last time you setup Fedora Core 1, or Lycoris Desktop/LX?
Chilling_Silently (228)
206585 2004-01-13 05:30:00 Wow 33 replies - but it is time to confess :-)

The origional post was to be a practical demonstration of a thread hijack to a bunch of school children on a semi-formal computer learning teach-in.

We considered it sucessful. Of course this was only a very small part of the events.

PF1'ers you did not let me down. I had no idea if it would work, so it was a very risky business. As an added bonus some of the other adults told me I would get no more than 6 replies. So knowing you lot I arranged a small side bet for a few cold amber drinks. Very nice too!!

To be fair, I actually had a small amount of interest in the post and to those who provided "on topic" replies - thank you.

Hope no one is too upset - but if U are - that's life :-)
Tobas (224)
206586 2004-01-13 06:07:00 Remember those words next time you require help in future.......
..............Now thats life...
albatross (343)
206587 2004-01-13 07:18:00 LMAO!!! hamstar (4)
206588 2004-01-13 07:40:00 Yes, yes, let's all use complicated language too complex for the majority of users who even bother to post off topic in order to confuse them into something that probably never happened, now back to the, er... redefined topic....

> ...Microsoft....most powerful computer company in the world...
Only if you let them be ;-)

> > I'm also running a Legal copy that didn't Require
> activation (MS Select copy that my
> > companies paid for).
>
> VLK's or CVLK's (Coporate Volume Liscence Keys) are
> good.. but they get leaked.... and that's bad for
> MS.... They needa sort out what they've done with the
> keys and crack down on it. You've gotta wonder how
> many people are using the DevilsDown VLK for XP and
> just staying away from WinXP SP1?
> A lot more keys could install SP1 but got blacklisted
> from WindowsUpdate.com after that.

:D


OH, and can we please not forget about the people WHO CANT RUN WINDOWS BECAUSE OF RANDOM ERRORS AND STRANGE HAPPENNINGS?

Sigh... so many more arguments, so little time....
Growly (6)
206589 2004-01-13 10:55:00 JUST USE WINDOWS 2000 AND ALL YOUR WORRIES WILL FLOAT OUT THE WINDOW!

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XP is ****.com
hamstar (4)
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