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206570	2004-01-11 06:45:00	> I'm more concerned about what's going out. I won't > permit internet access to anything unless it is > needed by me for some use. My point exactly. ZoneAlarm stops any unapproved outgoings, so what is there to keep singing about. It is brain-dead simple. If in doubt, say no. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
206571	2004-01-11 08:23:00	>Would like to try Linux ? but reading the posts requiring help on this Op Sys, we thing we had better leave it alone for the present Depends on what you are wanting to use Linux for - as a simple desktop PC it is really just as easy as MSWindows (only a bit different). I have been using Redhat as my only desktop for over 2 years and have no thoughts of going back.	JohnD (509)
206572	2004-01-11 08:38:00	> Just because someone hasn't activated Windows XP, > doesn't mean their copy is illegitimate. Unless you are using a corporate version of Windows XP intended for mass licencing, activation is mandatory, unless you use a hack to get around it, or use an illegal copy. If you then install the same CD of XP and try to activate it on a different PC, when it sends it's "random number" generated on the basis of the hardware installed in your machine it won't activate citing that this copy of XP has already been activated on a different machine. You then have to ring M$ and justify why your hardware has changed in order to activate again. Go buy a Dell off the shelf somewhere, or install XP Home off a shop bought CD. First thing that comes up is "Please activate windows, it will stop operating in 15 days unless it is activated" (or something to that effect)	whiskeytangofoxtrot (438)
206573	2004-01-11 08:42:00	i never activated my copy it came already installed! btw if ur so paranoid dont buy windows xp "longhorn" "palladium" ringing a bell?	Megaman (344)
206574	2004-01-11 08:46:00	> btw if ur so paranoid dont buy windows xp "longhorn" ROFLMAO :^O I don't think you've got any worries there Megaman - Longhorn is still about 18 months from reaching our store shelves :) It hasn't entered beta yet, so very few people know what will be in the end product - not even many of the programmers at Microsoft. :D Mike.	Mike (15)
206575	2004-01-11 08:49:00	> > btw if ur so paranoid dont buy windows xp > "longhorn" > > ROFLMAO :^O I don't think you've got any worries > there Megaman - Longhorn is still about 18 months > from reaching our store shelves :) It hasn't entered > beta yet, so very few people know what will be in the > end product - not even many of the programmers at > Microsoft. :D > > Mike. oh i wont worry when i buy my next computer if i cant buy xp pro as it is now i'll get a nice new shiny ibook thanks	Megaman (344)
206576	2004-01-11 12:42:00	>It doesn't mean it actually happens (it's quite unlikely) Ahh but on the other hand it could be quit likely... >I presume that Hamstar works for Apple or Oracle. Nope... I would like a fancy-ass job like that... but I'm a student. >His anti-Microsoft ravings should be ignored *in a deep booming voice*]:)FINE!, TAKE NO NOTICE OF ME, YOU SHALL ALL PERISH BY THE HAND OF MICROSOFT!]:) ;-)LMAO!!! >I'm not worried about Microsoft snooping, because I use a firewall. >a good firewall takes care of the rest "I'm not worried about someone stealing my car cos I lock the doors." >Microsoft is good for America Agreed... God bless america:-P. Linux is available in Maori! >Very sharp Graham yea... good one graham. :^O >Buy it, register it, use it, and sleep at night Buy it! I aint paying for their buggy, hole-ridden software(Lucky I got w2k free with my p00ter)... Linux is t00 hard for a n00b like me and I'm a geek so I won't walk in to MagnumMac with a gun! The internets resources are right at my fingertips... >Don't underestimate that company called Microsoft. They want to know what programs you are using, how much you are willing to pay, etc etc in the name of marketing. You must remember that if you are the most powerful computer company in the world, you want to stay there. The average computer user is blissfully unaware of whether or not they are being monitored. Thats it! He understands!!! (ZOLTAN!!!) And if M$ cut off supplies of their other OS's once Longhorn comes out (a sneaky M$ trick), I'll be downloading their software.	hamstar (4)
206577	2004-01-11 13:23:00	>Lucky I got w2k free with my p00ter Yeah it was free . . . thats it . . . For someone so seemingly vehemently anti M$ I'm surprised you don't realise that in no way is it free, it's factored into the price, and chances are the company selling the machine has done a deal with M$ and isn't allowed to sell a complete machine without a M$ OS on it . I also love your location . . . pure Microsoft . . .	whiskeytangofoxtrot (438)
206578	2004-01-11 20:57:00	> > btw if ur so paranoid dont buy windows xp > "longhorn" Actually, there's no "xp" about it, its simply called Windows Codenamed Longhorn . Says it when it boots ;-) > ROFLMAO :^O I don't think you've got any worries > there Megaman - Longhorn is still about 18 months > from reaching our store shelves :) It hasn't entered > beta yet, so very few people know what will be in the > end product - not even many of the programmers at > Microsoft . :D I thought it was due for release around the end of 2006? Apparently Linux will be on around half the worlds PC's by then accoding to some statistic Ive lost the URL for so cant back that statement up :p > My point exactly . ZoneAlarm stops any unapproved outgoings, so what is there to > keep singing about . It is brain-dead simple . > > If in doubt, say no . Exactly . . Unless they know a way around software firewalls . . . Then bring on smoothwall or the likes ;-) >>>I thought the average computer user had more intelligence . > The average computer user is blissfully unaware of whether or not they are being > monitored . Yeah . . SpyWare and Viruses are so common on the clients PC's I repair . one in every 5-6 would have a virus, and EVERY single on so far has had a good amount of spyware when a check run with Spybot Search & Destroy! > More intelligence than what? Apparently Mac users are smartest of the lot . . . I read an article in the paper about it a year or so back . . . Seriously, something like 70% are online as opposed to a lot less Windows users . They never mentioned Linux? >>>His anti-Microsoft ravings should be ignored, as should the Linux geeks . That's a bit over-stereotypical bud . I dont go round saying that all Windows users PC's are riddled with spyware now do I (Although for most its probably true ;-)) . > I'm also running a Legal copy that didn't Require activation (MS Select copy that my > companies paid for) . VLK's or CVLK's (Coporate Volume Liscence Keys) are good . . but they get leaked . . . . and that's bad for MS . . . . They needa sort out what they've done with the keys and crack down on it . You've gotta wonder how many people are using the DevilsDown VLK for XP and just staying away from WinXP SP1? A lot more keys could install SP1 but got blacklisted from WindowsUpdate . com after that . Tobas and Hamstar> If you're both really that paranoid that you dont trust the software, then try Solaris, Linux, or even BSD :D As JohnD said its not hard to use it for Desktop use . YMMV, but you'll only know if you try . For now, just install a good firewall . . Two or three if you really wanna go through all the extra hassle of being double-sure . Or stick to MS-DOS ;-) Chill .	Chilling_Silently (228)
206579	2004-01-11 22:08:00	>If you're both really that paranoid that you dont trust the software, then try Solaris, Linux, or even BSD Linux... Yeah sure easy to use... but to setup, now thats the definition of a biatch! >Or stick to MS-DOS Yeah MS-DOS is great, but the internet, and games... no wait. Everything is limited... I fear that people turn to Microsoft as the easy way out. Like me.:8}	hamstar (4)
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