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Thread ID: 41451	2004-01-11 16:50:00	One for the propeller heads.	JJJJJ (528)	Press F1

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206828	2004-01-11 16:50:00	I have a brand new P4 in a gigabyte M/B with 1024 DDR 400 ram and a SATA hard drive. Last night when I booted the machine, POST completed then the machine stopped with message at bottom of page, "Boot disk error. Insert system disk and boot again". I did this three times and each time it loaded the drivers and announced, Starting Windows. Then the machine locked up. and a BSoD popped up with it's "dangerous action" message. The last time I tried a reboot the comp. was dead. No action at all. The monitor was black apart from it's self test message. A couple more tries, same result. The fans were running and the power lights were on. I removed the lid and checked everything was seated properly. Cards and cables all OK. I hit the start button and it booted normally. So I put the lid back on and it still booted normally. This morning it is still starting normally. Can anyone offer some explanation? What would cause this? Will it happen again? Is it a warning of future trouble? I might add that I bought this machine without an operating system and I have installed XP Home myself. The only other thing I did was to remove the internal win-modem. It was interfering with my external modem. Jack	JJJJJ (528)
206829	2004-01-11 21:35:00	Well if it continues to not do that weird thing it did, then leave it :D Of course, you might get future trouble from it. I'd personally suggest a format and reinstall (shouldn't be too much hassle considering you just did that, so you wouldn't have anything to backup), to see if the problem comes back. Perhaps it was some hardware conflict though. Wait and see what other people think.	agent (30)
206830	2004-01-12 03:38:00	well i got that exact same error when my windows 95 hard drive died the problem probably lies in the hard drive, as in not working that night, and probably is going to die soon do a full backup just in case i'm right (and i always am ;))	Megaman (344)
206831	2004-01-12 03:48:00	Iagree with you that the problem is probably with the hard drive, but I doubt that it is on the way out. It's less than a week old. I think windows xp is having trouble comming to terms with the Sata hard drive. It is expecting to find an ide drive and there is nothing in that slot. Anyway no problems at all today so perhaps it was just teething problems.	JJJJJ (528)
206832	2004-01-12 05:18:00	If it's a Seagate harddrive, there's a possibility it'll die, but I seriously doubt that this is the case in a computer less than a week old (although perhaps the HDD itself is much older - take a look on the support section of the manufacturers site, it should tell you how to find out how old it is via the serial number). I had a Seagate HDD which had problems not six months after I got it, and while it is still usable, I restrict it to 32GB using the jumper, because the error lies past this range. It might pay to also download a program to check your HDDs health, just in case. You can probably find one at majorgeeks.com, or perhaps the manufacturers site again.	agent (30)
206833	2004-01-12 05:48:00	My guess is you had a loose cable but have now fixed it.	Elephant (599)
206834	2004-01-12 06:35:00	I had the same problem with my computer after a nice afternoons fidding in the bios. After scratching my head for hours on end i was brave enough to go back in to the bios and after checking the settings i had discovered that by me pressing the LOAD OPTIMAL SETTING button as well as changing lots of other settings it changed the hard drive settings so windows would not load. I then pressed auto detect for the hard drives and the bios reset the hard drive parameters to the way they should be. That was a year ago and there is no sign my hard drive is on the way out. cheers chris	Glassman (5101)
206835	2004-01-12 07:48:00	How long is it since the first SATA drive was released? Very recently I think,so it can't be that old	JJJJJ (528)
206836	2004-01-12 07:58:00	I am sorry my last post mislead my hard drive is ide i meant i got the same message BOOT DISK ERROR insert system disk.	Glassman (5101)
206837	2004-01-12 08:02:00	Don't assume a drive won't/can't fail because its new. These devices have a "bathtub" failure curve. Highest probability for failure is at the beginning and then rising again a few years later. New drives don't seem to last that well, but the price reflects the lower quality? I have had a drive fail in a few weeks. I always treat data on the hard drive as stored temporarily.	godfather (25)
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