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Thread ID: 135095	2013-09-24 07:00:00	New PC - this or that?	ZacDaMan72 (17163)	Press F1

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1354222	2013-09-26 21:57:00	I would up the ram to 16 gig bit of future proofing especially if your a gamer	beama (111)
1354223	2013-09-26 22:32:00	I would up the ram to 16 gig bit of future proofing especially if your a gamer Maybe. It amuses me how whenever a certain amount of RAM becomes too little it get's doubled. Maybe that's smart but eventually it leads to ridiculous amounts af RAM. Back when Quake 4 was new (or it may have been another game but I think that was it) I was running 1gig of RAM and the game would pause quite often while the map was shuffled around between the page file and memory - especially if you moved fast. I added .5 a gig for a total of 1.5 and all my games played smoothly for at least another year after that. All you need is to get past the threshold where the page file is required regularly. Point is 4 gig is still enough for most users but can be a bit of a restriction in some cases, 8 has a noticeable speed up in some tasks and can help with games so it's worthwhile. By the time most games need more than 8 gig to run smoothly I suspect you'll need more than a RAM upgrade. The last testing I saw on Tom's hardware showed major gains from 2-4, big gains from 4-8, and minor gains up to about 12 gig and no real improvement past that. Of course in 4 years time you might be right and 16 might seem tiny. An interesting side note is they also decided to try going past 4 gig on a 32 bit OS and see if they could get much benefit from it. With some trickery involving RAM drives they managed to get some fairly large performance gains from 8 gig of RAM on a 32 bit OS :) Not that I'd bother, 64 bit is the way to go now. On the other hand the cheapest time to get more RAM is when you build the PC, adding 16 gig to start with is certainly cheaper than starting with 8 then upgrading sometime later if it becomes necessary. Me I build a new gaming machine about every 2 years, sometimes sooner, sometimes longer, but 2 on average. Because of that I don't really need to future proof anything, my old gaming PC usually gets demoted to general purpose backup PC and I sell off the one from before that.	dugimodo (138)
1354224	2013-09-27 01:14:00	Only issue is that the 1155 socket motherboards are a dead end, you have no upgrade path. Also that motherboard is out of stock. I had a friend who was trying to get one to go with a 3770k, we couldn't find a board from asrock, asus or gigabyte in stock which would do 8x/8x sli. Ended up having to go with the 4770k and a 1150 board. Sure Ivy is a valid option (haswell is like a 10% performance difference iirc) but finding decent 1155 parts is an issue. Yes, 1150 is a dead platform, but then again, how many gens do you get out of 1 socket on Intel....Haswell successor will probably only be another 10% increment on performance and not worth upgrading from Haswell, so the next processor after that will be a new socket anyway. As for the Asrock Z77 extreme, I just put that as a marker for the Asrock board, personally, I like the mATA boards like Pro4...either will work and the mATA will be cheaper anyway.	SolMiester (139)
1354225	2013-09-27 20:48:00	In what ways has your laptop become a bottleneck? For schoolwork I have been having to use Sony Vegas, Photoshop CS5 etc and the Core 2 Duo 2.66GHz and the 4GB of ram make it lag extremely. Games also run at around 15-20fps because of the 512mb graphics chip. So really its time to retire the laptop and get a desktop to last for around 5 years. My mate who works in IT told me to email him a list of parts then he'd ask around to get the best deal. So I made this... CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($464.55) CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($122.55) Motherboard: Asus Z87-C ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($204.25) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($113.05) Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($150.00) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($122.55) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 4GB Video Card ($499.95) Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($189.05) Power Supply: Raidmax 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($171.00) Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($137.30) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($219.00) Total: $2356.20	ZacDaMan72 (17163)
1354226	2013-09-27 22:38:00	For schoolwork I have been having to use Sony Vegas, Photoshop CS5 etc and the Core 2 Duo 2.66GHz and the 4GB of ram make it lag extremely. Games also run at around 15-20fps because of the 512mb graphics chip. So really its time to retire the laptop and get a desktop to last for around 5 years. My mate who works in IT told me to email him a list of parts then he'd ask around to get the best deal. So I made this... CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($464.55) CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($122.55) Motherboard: Asus Z87-C ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($204.25) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($113.05) Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($150.00) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($122.55) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 4GB Video Card ($499.95) Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($189.05) Power Supply: Raidmax 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($171.00) Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($137.30) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($219.00) Total: $2356.20 CPU Cooler, the gain you get from the h60 over the 212+ is not worth the $70 price difference. Put that into the gpu. Raidmax for a power supply is also a big no. Pick on from the strongly recommend catagory here: www.gpforums.co.nz I also find it impossible to recommend a 760 for $500 when you can get a 7970 for the same price which will beat the 760 in ever benchmark: anandtech.com (including thermal and noise benchmarks), if you want a nVidia card get a 770 or nothing (anandtech.com).	icow (15313)
1354227	2013-09-28 02:58:00	x2 for ditching the Raidmax, they're junk. After you pay $2000+ for a system, do you really want to trust all that to some cheap-ass PSU?	Agent_24 (57)
1354228	2013-09-29 05:32:00	I didn't know that Raidmax was rubbish, so I went with the Corsair HX850.	ZacDaMan72 (17163)
1354229	2013-09-30 02:42:00	CPU Cooler, the gain you get from the h60 over the 212+ is not worth the $70 price difference. Put that into the gpu. Raidmax for a power supply is also a big no. Pick on from the strongly recommend catagory here: www.gpforums.co.nz I also find it impossible to recommend a 760 for $500 when you can get a 7970 for the same price which will beat the 760 in ever benchmark: anandtech.com (including thermal and noise benchmarks), if you want a nVidia card get a 770 or nothing (anandtech.com). I wouldnt get a 4GB 760, but didnt know you could get a 7970 for the same price?..LOL, AMD have to give them away now eh?...and I would never recommend the 770, its so overpriced its not funny!	SolMiester (139)
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