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Thread ID: 129770	2013-03-12 07:29:00	The city traffic woes are over - - Or is that whoas are over?	R2x1 (4628)	PC World Chat

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1332374	2013-03-13 04:54:00	Our left wing friends in politics never needed any justification to spend other people's money... In fact, the same can be said for our right wing friends in politics..	johcar (6283)
1332375	2013-03-13 05:19:00	"Friends"? Antonyms again!	R2x1 (4628)
1332376	2013-03-13 06:01:00	Bit before that Paul. ;) HERE (transportblog.co.nz) Trouble is they're still all talk and no do. Bit like ChCh and their rebuild. :rolleyes: It was that long ago!! Thanx for the link..	paulw (1826)
1332377	2013-03-13 06:50:00	So why didn't anyone push it when Comrade Clark was in power for all those years? She and Comrade Cullen LOVED spending our money - the CRL should have been a sitter to be funded by Labour!! Silly to blame it on a government - they all have spending priorities (all a bit different) and no single party will ever be able to satisfy everyone's individual ideas on what should be funded over and above everything else. True, both Labour & National have had ample opportunity to address the problem but have been found wanting. Frankly, they have both repeatedly proved themselves useless, but what’s the answer? :help:	B.M. (505)
1332378	2013-03-13 07:55:00	As usual it took me 12 minutes to cycle to work today a journey that takes 20 minutes by car and I don't even hit the rush since I start work at 9.30 and finish at 6. I'd hate to have to go in the rush	gary67 (56)
1332379	2013-03-13 07:56:00	The answer lies in an expanded parliament. Mr. G. Fawkes had the plot sorted, but sadly, so did a few minions.	R2x1 (4628)
1332380	2013-03-13 08:05:00	The answer lies in an expanded parliament. Mr. G. Fawkes had the plot sorted, but sadly, so did a few minions. The said Mr G Fawkes was indeed the only man to ever enter Parliament with honest intentions.	B.M. (505)
1332381	2013-03-13 08:11:00	The said Mr G Fawkes was indeed the only man to ever enter Parliament with honest intentions. I entered Parliament on a tour and intended only to have a look around, so not quite true ;)	pcuser42 (130)
1332382	2013-03-13 18:21:00	I hate Auckland traffic, I avoid visiting the place as much as possible. A lot of traffic problems are caused by driver behaviour more than by road design or traffic lights/ intersections etc. I find myself stopped in a line of traffic crawling slower than walking pace for 10-20 mins or more only to discover a broken down car on the shoulder is the cause of the delay as people slow down and rubbrneck on the way past. Here's a tip for rush hour traffic, if it's not in your way slowing down to look at it is a bad Idea. It's been shown overseas where extensive studies on traffic flow have been conducted that even a single driver suddenly braking hard can cause a ripple backwards in heavy traffic that results in a complete stoppage further back. They have developed a system of dynamically altering the speed limit behind holdups to smooth the traffic flow and prevent this so yes if used right computer modelling can help traffic flow. As well as that there's a common problem that I also contribute to - we all wan't our own transport and the freedom of driving ourselves. Just do the old experment of standing near the motorway for a few minutes when it's busy and counting what percentage of cars have more than one passenger. Yes public transport needs to be better, but even then you have to convince people to use it and only some people would volunteerily make the switch. In the end the problem is caused by a lot of factors, only some of which can be helped by design. We the drivers could also take steps to alleviate the issues but we don't and continue to lay all the blame elsewhere. While I would love for better roads and services we have to stop acting like spoilt kids who want the best of everything like other kids when as a country we simply don't have the income to afford them. Politicians are big culprits here, but they aren't exclusively to blame.	dugimodo (138)
1332383	2013-03-13 19:05:00	I hate Auckland traffic, I avoid visiting the place as much as possible. A lot of traffic problems are caused by driver behaviour more than by road design or traffic lights/ intersections etc. I find myself stopped in a line of traffic crawling slower than walking pace for 10-20 mins or more only to discover a broken down car on the shoulder is the cause of the delay as people slow down and rubbrneck on the way past. Here's a tip for rush hour traffic, if it's not in your way slowing down to look at it is a bad Idea. It's been shown overseas where extensive studies on traffic flow have been conducted that even a single driver suddenly braking hard can cause a ripple backwards in heavy traffic that results in a complete stoppage further back. They have developed a system of dynamically altering the speed limit behind holdups to smooth the traffic flow and prevent this so yes if used right computer modelling can help traffic flow. As well as that there's a common problem that I also contribute to - we all wan't our own transport and the freedom of driving ourselves. Just do the old experment of standing near the motorway for a few minutes when it's busy and counting what percentage of cars have more than one passenger. Yes public transport needs to be better, but even then you have to convince people to use it and only some people would volunteerily make the switch. In the end the problem is caused by a lot of factors, only some of which can be helped by design. We the drivers could also take steps to alleviate the issues but we don't and continue to lay all the blame elsewhere. While I would love for better roads and services we have to stop acting like spoilt kids who want the best of everything like other kids when as a country we simply don't have the income to afford them. Politicians are big culprits here, but they aren't exclusively to blame. You are right that Politicians shouldn’t be held responsible for peoples poor driving, but, that doesn’t excuse the fact that the problem has been known for over 50 years and despite all the modelling, statistics, hand-wringing, and procrastination not a thing has been done to actually address the problem. Further, even if they were to start today it would be years before any benefit was seen for their efforts. Roading systems and tunnels just can't be built over night. So, I guess for all you JAFA’s it’s a matter of suck it up or move out, the bird has flown. :(	B.M. (505)
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