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Thread ID: 135095	2013-09-24 07:00:00	New PC - this or that?	ZacDaMan72 (17163)	Press F1

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1354202	2013-09-24 07:00:00	Currently, I have my laptop connected to an external monitor (ghetto desktop haha), and my laptop is becoming a bottleneck for my otherwise good desk setup (5.1 Logitech Z506, 23 inch monitor etc) so I wanna move up to a desktop. I won't be playing the most extreme games like Battlefield 4 and stuff, but I know I want one to last me through high school, so 4 years (first year of h.s for me). So here is my intended setup... CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($274.84 @ PB Technologies) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($56.35 @ PB Technologies) Motherboard: Asus H87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($182.00 @ Paradigm PCs) Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($129.00 @ Paradigm PCs) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($125.34 @ PB Technologies) Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($319.95 @ Computer Lounge) Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($152.00 @ Paradigm PCs) Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Platinum 650W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($201.48 @ Aquila Technology) Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($194.35 @ PB Technologies) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($220.00 @ Paradigm PCs) Total: $1855.31 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-24 18:00 NZST+1200) Or should I uprate the system? CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($327.75 @ PB Technologies) CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($123.00 @ Paradigm PCs) Motherboard: Asus Z87-C ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($211.00 @ Paradigm PCs) Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($129.00 @ Paradigm PCs) Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($145.00 @ PC Force) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($125.34 @ PB Technologies) Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($319.95 @ Computer Lounge) Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($152.00 @ Paradigm PCs) Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Platinum 650W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($201.48 @ Aquila Technology) Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($194.35 @ PB Technologies) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($220.00 @ Paradigm PCs) Total: $2148.87 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-24 17:59 NZST+1200)	ZacDaMan72 (17163)
1354203	2013-09-25 05:00:00	Get the cheaper system, then add the SSD from the other system and you will be fine for the next few years.	darkoverlord123 (16996)
1354204	2013-09-25 05:49:00	Total: $2148.87 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-24 17:59 NZST+1200) Not really sure how that pc ended up so expensive: nz.pcpartpicker.com That's excluding windows ($varies) and a optical drive ($20) If it needs to be under 2.1k cut back on the cpu and maybe drop the cpu cooler.	icow (15313)
1354205	2013-09-25 08:15:00	Not really sure how that pc ended up so expensive: nz.pcpartpicker.com That's excluding windows ($varies) and a optical drive ($20) If it needs to be under 2.1k cut back on the cpu and maybe drop the cpu cooler. I changed a few things about it: nz.pcpartpicker.com	ZacDaMan72 (17163)
1354206	2013-09-25 08:21:00	What about this? CPU Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core $274.84 CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing $56.35 Motherboard Asus H87-PRO ATX LGA1150 $182.00 Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 $119.00 Storage Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" SSD $145.00 Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $122.93 Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB $319.95 Case Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower $152.00 Power Supply Antec 650W ATX12V / EPS12V $201.48 Optical Drive LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer $137.30 Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $219.00 Total: $1929.85	ZacDaMan72 (17163)
1354207	2013-09-25 08:25:00	Are those WD Black Drives any better? The blues are about $40 cheaper. That PSU seems a little expensive. Or is it one of those high efficiency models? I got my Corsair CX750 for $140 (though it is at the bottom of the corsair line).	ChazTheGeek (16619)
1354208	2013-09-25 09:22:00	Black drives are faster than blues. Not sure if there's much benefit if you have an SSD... Unless you're using fraps or similar. In regards to the PSU you're paying $20 more for gold efficiency, 5 year warranty (vs 3 on the corsair) and the psu being modular which is totally worth it imo. Personally I wouldn't bother with 1866mhz ram. The performance increase from the extra mhz is tiny, this is usually because higher clocks means higher CAS latency which will decrease performance at the same time minimizing the gains from the extra clocks. Better off just getting a stick of cheaper 1600mhz stuff. In regards to the case I picked the R4 as it's one of the quietest cases you can buy (short of going fanless or something). Even with stock/cheaper fans it's quiet. If this isn't a big deal I would recommend just buying whatever, there's nothing amazing about the 300R so unless you really like the look of the case then you can buy pretty much whatever. Personally I'd go for the biggest case I could get in the $100-$150 price range (even if it's second hand) just to make working around a 7970 easy. If you do want a quiet case but don't want to spend $200 on the R4 the Bit Fenix Ghost is an excellent option.	icow (15313)
1354209	2013-09-25 10:10:00	Blacks have a reputation for being less reliable and blues are pretty close in performance. My opinion, drop the hyper 212 and use stock cooling, get a blue drive, use the savings towards a GTX760 graphics card which will make more difference in games than any other item on your list. Otherwise go with the first option. you could also opt for a cheaper motherboard if you want, there is not too much difference outside of overclocking abilities except number of ports, RAM slots etc. Performance is near enough the same between a $150 motherboard and a $400 one if you run at stock. While the K CPU's are nice and free performance is awesome I'd suggest for the extra money and effort to overclock you won't notice a difference most of the time. For example I had a 2500K clocked at 4.2 and I game a lot, after a BIOS update I forgot to redo the overclock and ran at stock speeds for 3 months without noticing. This time round I went for an i7 3770 and stock cooler instead of a i5 3570K and hyper 212	dugimodo (138)
1354210	2013-09-25 10:13:00	I hear overclocking is pretty average on haswell anyway. Ivy and sandy were much better overclockers.	icow (15313)
1354211	2013-09-26 03:32:00	I was going to suggest an IB CPU rather than Haswell (which run hotter) and an ASRock board...for a 4Ghz IB out of the box... PCPartPicker part list: nz.pcpartpicker.com Price breakdown by merchant: nz.pcpartpicker.com Benchmarks: nz.pcpartpicker.com CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($263.34 @ PB Technologies) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($56.35 @ PB Technologies) Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($228.68 @ Ascent Technology) Memory: Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($123.97 @ Aquila Technology) Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($150.00 @ Paradigm PCs) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($170.05 @ PC Force) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($449.00 @ Paradigm PCs) Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($189.05 @ PC Force) Power Supply: Corsair Professional 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($199.95 @ Computer Lounge) Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($40.24 @ PB Technologies) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($174.14 @ Ascent Technology) Total: $2044.77 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-26 14:32 NZST+1200)	SolMiester (139)
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