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Thread ID: 42077 2004-01-31 06:50:00 Linux - convince me it's worth it - No flaming please chiefnz (545) Press F1
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211828 2004-02-03 10:12:00 > There is a difference between having to know how to
> use a new OS and expecting it to install
> without lots of research and downloading extra stuff
> and compiling etc. Of course Linux is not Windows
> (for which we should be truly grateful), and if I am
> moving to a new OS I am quite prepared to put the
> time in to learn how to use it, just as I had to
> spend time when I moved from Win98 to WinXP. What I
> do expect though is that the basic nuts and bolts all
> work without me having to worry about them.
Yes, but same can be said for Windows XP? How many people have had failed upgrades from previous versions of Windows? No OS is perfect..

> Whenever I see a magazine article titled "Linux Ready
> for the Desktop", you get a little way into the
> article and there will be a bit that says "I had a
> little trouble with xyz, but I downloaded and
> compiled abc and then it was all fine."
Its worked absolutely trouble free for my family's PC? Including Camera which took me hours of pissing around with on Win2K

> I don't want
> an OS that requires me to know all this stuff up
> front. I want the thing to install without trouble,
> and then I am happy to invest time in learning how to
> use it efficiently and tweak it to my satisfaction.
Sounds fair :-)

> But the underlying stuff has to work. Now as I
> understand it the Linux kernel is very stable and
> efficient, and that's great, but until "Linux install
> goes haywire - thousands weep" is the big story
> because it is so unexpected, you are not going to get
> anything like a mass migration to the OS.
Yeah.. Its stable... and I think you might be surprised... Look at what's happening to PressF1, with more and more Linux questions popping up. Why? Because there's more and more users :D

> I suspect there will be some Linux devotees who would
> be quite sad at this state of affairs because it
> would mean that there was nothing left for them to
> play with and have secret knowledge of, but I think
> there will always be stuff that can be done, because
> Linux is so customisable and therefore
> infinitely malleable.
> [/rant]

Obviously :-D

Same can be said for Windows though! I got bored of fixing it, and knowing a lot of the common problems, so Linux has been my saviour and renewed my interest in computing!

Its not ready for the world, but good on those special few that try it and like it :-)


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;-) 		Chilling_Silently (228)
211829 2004-02-03 10:31:00 He is talking about RH8 it is effectively 10 now but the free one is now called Fedora. As far as installs go I have had less trouble installing Linux than Windows.
There is another post where someone changed their motherboard and Win2000 spat a dummy whereas Linux just carried on. 		mikebartnz (21)
211830 2004-02-03 10:43:00 >Look at what's happening to PressF1, with more and more Linux questions popping up. Why? Because there's more and more users

All of whom are having problems... ]:) 		tbacon_nz (865)
211831 2004-02-03 10:56:00 Now Now tbacon_nz under that theory IE and OUtlook must be absolute rubbish going by the number of posts for them. You make it sound like Windows is trouble free. If you don't want to try Linux no one is going to force you to. mikebartnz (21)
211832 2004-02-03 15:52:00 Well I'm back at work and havn't had much time to tinker a bit more with Linux, I will keep reading and Googling in the mean time.

I don't really wanna look like a complete idiot when Chill comes around on Sunday. Although mind you I don't mind so much not having the knowledge regarding Linux... I guess it is my so-called final frontier.

With what I've read so far on the net and from various F1'ers, I am quite comfortable with the knowledge that one day Linux could become my primary desktop OS. It's amazing how a little curiosity get's you revved up to discover and learn new things.

Even if I don't find Linux to be my cup of tea in the end... I cannot place a value on what it has done for my computing enthusiasm.

Well enough from me! ;)

cheers
chiefnz 		chiefnz (545)
211833 2004-02-03 19:02:00 The ]:) was meant to indicate mischevious irony - mind you there has to be a bit of irony in the response (I hope!) Of course I'm not saying Windows is trouble-free . I just think that occasionally zealots need to be reminded that their world is not necessarily the perfect answer .

I suspect I will try Linux some day - but not just yet .

Maybe my reactions to this thread explain why I have been enjoying smack the pingu so much . :D 		tbacon_nz (865)
211834 2004-02-03 20:00:00 > The ]:) was meant to indicate mischevious irony -
> mind you there has to be a bit of irony in the
> response (I hope!) Of course I'm not saying Windows
> is trouble-free .

Hmmmmm . Irony noted .

> I just think that occasionally
> zealots need to be reminded that their world is not
> necessarily the perfect answer .

Which partitular zealots are you refering to? I see that term all the time refering to devoted Linux users . There are equaly zealotous MS Windows users btw .

> I suspect I will try Linux some day - but not just
> yet .

Jump in the waters fine . Lots of nice folk to help out if you get stuck .
No not all Linux users intend to- . neoburn . net/imagef1/files/marrkp2 . jpg-folk" target="_blank">sal . neoburn . net btw .

> Maybe my reactions to this thread explain why I have
> been enjoying smack the pingu so much . :D

(Sarcasim)So you enjoy dishing something you know very little about?(End of sarcasim) 		mark.p (383)
211835 2004-02-03 20:10:00 Nice mark! Any chance I could get a copy of that?

WM?

Sometimes simplicity is best :D 		Chilling_Silently (228)
211836 2004-02-03 21:02:00 Just the background Chill? Whats your addy again? Seem to have misplaced it. mark.p (383)
211837 2004-02-03 21:10:00 Chilling_Silence [at] orcon [dot] new [dot] nz

Many thanks :-) 		Chilling_Silently (228)
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