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| Thread ID: 42028 | 2004-01-29 22:25:00 | Off Topic: RIAA are off this planet! | Fire-and-Ice (3910) | Press F1 |
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| 211146 | 2004-01-30 01:51:00 | >>Get a grip people. Being paid for your work is how the world works. I'm self-employed.... you mean I should get paid for everything I do... but I don't.... |
Dolby Digital (160) | ||
| 211147 | 2004-01-30 03:13:00 | If they ACTUALLY did that, i would go kill my goat. It is so ludacris. God damn. Why don't they just sue who ever made .mp3 and that'll sort have the **** out |
MrBeef (342) | ||
| 211148 | 2004-01-30 03:37:00 | Well Dolby you can choose to do unpaid work such as for a school or friends, but ultimately if all your work is unpaid then you will leave the ranks of the self-employed. | Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 211149 | 2004-01-30 06:09:00 | > Before posters go off the deep end, the article is > satirical - its just a spoof. > > Good idea though. Has merit. The article may indeed be satirical but It is not that far from reality. Here in NZ the recording industry watchdog have already carried out prosecutions and fee collections from Shops and Cafes that have the radio playing where customers can hear it, claiming that the music is being played in a public place and therefore the shop owner must pay the royalties for each song. Nevermind the fact that radios have been played in stored since the 1930's. So perhaps the article may infact become reality. |
Odin (227) | ||
| 211150 | 2004-01-30 06:20:00 | Robsonde, I like that hearing implant idea. Best keep it to yourself eh... we don't want the RIAA getting hold of it!! :D But anyway stuff like this could become a reality, just a matter of time. Apparently copying your purchased cd music and just making your own compilation of it on a walkman or something is illegal. Anyway use an anon proxy and you'll be fine, you have nothing to worry about. |
PoWa (203) | ||
| 211151 | 2004-01-30 22:48:00 | > Leaving aside the humour, is there no sympathy or > comprehension for why RIAA want to stop peer to peer > music sharing? > Few musicians succeed and make a living from their > muse. > Recording and producing songs costs money. Musicians > and record company staff like to eat just like the > rest of us. At the risk of entering a flame war, and not speaking for anyone else, I take issue with big corporate labels making quite large profits (speaking in generalisations, admittedly dangerous ;) ) out of their musicians. Sure, some artists are quite wealthy, but there are probably more that get paid very modest sums for their contribution, while it's getting harder to buy CDs for anything under $25. And I doubt the CEO and senior music executives are planning on taking a pay cut to pay their artists more. I don't condone piracy, but I find it hard to feel sympathy for high-paid executives who complain about piracy "because it affects the artist", when what they really mean is that they have had to settle for Mercedes' 2002 model, instead of the latest 2003-2004 model. Generalisations, of course, and possibly a touch of the "tall poppy" syndrome, but while there are executives raking in money, simply for being at the top, I'm not going to worry about their whinging too much... Lizard BTW: loved the article. V. Funny! :D |
Lizard (2409) | ||
| 211152 | 2004-01-30 23:19:00 | What gets me is that cd's are cheaper to make then casstes but still sell for 35 bucks,an import can be anywhere from 65 to 120 bucks. These things cost less then a cent to make. And while it does cost money to record it in the first place make no mistake the entire cost right down to food is charged to the artist.who in return stand to make no money from it unless it sells in the hundreds of thousands. What makes it worse is 99 percent of the time the costs and directon the music takes is complety out of the hands of the artist,once they enter the world of the record company they are told what image is working at the momennt,what sound is selling and their songs are adjusted/re-written/recorded as how how the record company dictates. This is exactly why we now have 4 or 5 different types of music,with all bands/artists adjusted to fit the demographic,this is why the music has been so bland,weak and sales are falling.This is why after one album people's careers are over,they never get the chance to mature as a singer/SONGWRITER/performer.The entire concept of craft is taken out of their hands.If the first album doesn't sell then they are gone.the record companies have created a business model that relies on one hit wonders and mass marketing. Take Elton John for example,His first few albums were complete and utter failures as far as sales go,But look what he devoped into,A man of extreme talent and nowadays can only be classed as an out and out legend...however if he was a young man starting outin our times that would never have happened,he would have been put into a boy band and told to dance like a goose,or been told to grow a goatee,get some tribal tattoos and sing about how miserable life is over top of some simplistic power chords. The other thing that gets my goat is that the recording industry thinks that every year sales have to increase and if they don't then its due to theft,even though it has been proven that people who download music buy more cd's then those who don't.This is of course because the people downloading are music fans,they want the music and in most cases are preppared to pay for it.The record companies responce is to sue. There are currently 7 major recording companies who control 99 percent of the music we get to hear,they control the artists,the stock in the shops,what we see on tv and what we hear on the radio.They fail to see why dictating the market has caused sales to fall,and they are dead scared that people downloading music will have their musical understanding broadened by artsists they download who are making real music for the lesser labels.Buying music we find good on one of the lesser labels does not fit in with major lanels marketing plans...this is an area they are working to stop happening. The only end to this mess i can see,or what i hope to see is the downfall of the empire created by the major labels,a return to the artist trying to excell at his or her craft may one day mean we can once again enjoy good quality music,rather then designer label crap that has any individualty squeezed out of it by the record companies money. An album doesn't need to have 5 million dollars spent on recording it,vocals don't need to be 80 layers deep,the record is not made better by having over payed suits dictating the direction. Give the artist a microphone and see what they can do,If they are good then the resulting record will be the proof of that., Just like Black Sabbath in 1970. As a huge music fan what the record industry has done to the music industry makes me sick to my very soul,Music,good music is a powerfull tool,an amazing creation of depth and honesty,a window to the soul or even a amazing story telling device.The record companies have taken it and turned it into a whore. |
metla (154) | ||
| 211153 | 2004-01-31 00:26:00 | Well said there metla. | PoWa (203) | ||
| 211154 | 2004-01-31 01:47:00 | .The record > companies have taken it and turned it into a whore. Yes I noticed that too.... a lot of the female artists dress like whores anyway |
Wild Honey (5178) | ||
| 211155 | 2004-01-31 02:15:00 | A wonderfully impassioned post, Metla. An acolyte of Black Sabbath too. You rise even further in my estimation. I might not agree with all you say but I also despair at the clinically marketed pop that is promoted. Still, there are plenty of independent labels. And we do not need to pirate music to learn about it. There are plenty of fora which are completely free of music industry control where people (often university students) expound on bands and artists out of the mainstream. The net gives complete freedom to spread the word and encourage people to try a particular artist. For example The Mars Volta. Not quite my taste anymore, but this is a modern band doing early 70s progressive rock. Astonishing. Back to the point: this forum is a good way of finding out about software. No-one here suggests that software should be pirated and where to find it using p 2 p. Why not? Microsoft etc is seen as the corporate devil incarnate, yet our members don't advocate stealing it's wares. I am sure it happens but this forum respects the law. Why is music any different? |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
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