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212651 2004-02-05 02:31:00 And all this is superior to windows in what way? metla (154)
212652 2004-02-05 02:48:00 >And all this is superior to windows in what way?

No more involvement with Microsoft and its monopolistic, predatory, controlling, price gouging business practices. 		John H (8)
212653 2004-02-05 03:00:00 OK, I have whipped up some installation instructions for you. If you are interested in what some of the other rpm's are about, you can use this page (fedora.redhat.com) as a guide.


Installing KDE 3.2

Create a directory under /home/{username} and call it KDE-3.2 for example. Save all your downloaded rpm's into this KDE-3.2 folder.

KDE cannot be running whilst you are installing 3.2 so X (which is the desktop graphical envirnoment eg KDE, Gnome) will need to be shutdown. Briefly Linux has different runlevels, normally 0 to 6. X runs in runlevel 5 only and runlevel 3 is all command line only stuff - no GUI's at all. So we need to leave runlevel 5 and enter runlevel 3.

NB* Don't enter the speechmarks in the commands I have shown and everthing is case sensitive.

1. Close all open applications. Open up a Terminal window on the desktop by right clicking and selecting it. The enter "su -" at the $ prompt to change to root. Next enter telinit 3 - this command will close down runlevel 5 and drop you into runlevel 3. You will see the services shutting down and then some restarting. When it has finished you will either end up at a root prompt, or be asked to login in - use root to login with.

2. You now need to navigate via the command line to your KDE-3.2 folder. Enter in
cd /home/{username}/KDE-3.2/. To make sure you are in the right place, enter the command ls which will list the contents of that directory and you should see all the rpm's listed.

3. Next enter in "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" and press enter. Nothing might happen straight away but wait for any error messages about missing dependencies - copy them down if you get any. All going well you won't see any error messages and the various packages will start installing. You will see a row of ## to indicate progress as well as a cumulative % completed. It is finished when you get the 100% mark as well as being returned to the [root@localhost KDE-3.2]# prompt

4. Next enter "cd" and then "telint 5" which will start runlevel 5 and X with the new KDE 3.2.

NB* If you only get error messages about dependencies, or get lost somewhere in runlevel 3, just enter "cd" and "telinit 5" to get out and back into KDE.

Disclaimer: this is how I install KDE, there are other ways but I think this is pretty straight forward. 		Jen C (20)
212654 2004-02-05 03:21:00 Wow, Jen, you are a jewel! Thank you so much for doing that. Very clear instructions, and if I can't follow those, I will give up and wait until the Linux community panders to dunces!

I have printed the instructions off and will try them over the weekend. The downloading process is still going on between other jobs!

Thanks again Jen

John 		John H (8)
212655 2004-02-05 03:42:00 Jen, I just have one more qn at this stage. In your earlier email, you said:
>Don't forget to do your md5 checksums afterwards.

I notice there is a md5sum file on the ftp site. Can you please let me know what you meant, and a hint on how to do it?

Thanks again
John 		John H (8)
212656 2004-02-05 03:50:00 > And all this is superior to windows in what way?

You know what they say- Ignorance is bliss. Feel free to take that any way you like. No offence at all intended btw.

Any chance of a heads up when XPse will be available? 		mark.p (383)
212657 2004-02-05 04:05:00 Just right-click that md5sum file and save it to disk. To check the md5sums of your downloaded rpm's, just go into that directory and right-click Open Terminal window.

Then enter md5sum *.rpm >> ~/Desktop/md5list

This will take a wee while but after coming back to the prompt, a file will be sitting on your desktop called md5list and it will contain the checksums of your rpm's. You just need to compare your list with the one off the server. If you get the same string of numbers and letters it means your downloaded rpm's have not been corrupted.


Thanks to CyberChuck who told me about the easy way of doing this with the generated text list from the md5sum calculations :) 		Jen C (20)
212658 2004-02-05 04:19:00 Thanks Jen, that is really clear again.

Now I thought I had done enough work for the day and thought I would start the installation.

I closed all open applications, opened a terminal, did the su thing and was prompted for my password which then took me to root, then typed telinit 3 but the response was bash: telenit: command not found

So I didn't get too far! :-(

I have checked LinuxQuestions.org, but they say the same thing - just type telinit 3 at root. A search doesn't show any problem like "command not found".

Do you have any suggestions please?

John 		John H (8)
212659 2004-02-05 04:29:00 > > And all this is superior to windows in what way?
>
> No more involvement with Microsoft and its
> monopolistic, predatory, controlling, price gouging
> business practices.



Well said. 		metla (154)
212660 2004-02-05 04:30:00 > > And all this is superior to windows in what way?
>
> You know what they say- Ignorance is bliss . Feel free
> to take that any way you like . No offence at all
> intended btw .
>
> Any chance of a heads up when XPse will be
> available?




Just what are you claiming im ignorent about? 		metla (154)
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