| Forum Home | ||||
| Press F1 | ||||
| Thread ID: 42197 | 2004-02-03 19:12:00 | Attn: Linux users - KDE 3.2 released | Chilling_Silently (228) | Press F1 |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 212641 | 2004-02-04 22:57:00 | >30 rpm's (total 175 MB) thrown into one directory and made to fight it out Jen, I was a bit overwhelmed when I got onto the KDE website and saw all the files to be downloaded. There were two Fedora file (logos and language related) and I downloaded those. As I write this, kdebase i386 (presumably a CD image file?) is downloading. Then I assume I simply download all the other rpms in that directory /pub/packages/desktops/kde/stable/3.2/RedHat/Fedora/i386? I assume that the kdebase i386 is installed first, then you can install all of the others in any order? Or am I totally off the planet here? Thanks for any help (Fedora is completely up to date by the way). John |
John H (8) | ||
| 212642 | 2004-02-04 23:28:00 | Hi John I see you are using this mirror (ftp.us.kde.org) for the RPM's. I actually used a different one as I got in quite early for downloading KDE 3.2 and not all the mirrors had been updated by that stage. These are what packages I installed: arts-1.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm arts-devel-1.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdeaddons-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdeaddons-atlantikdesigner-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdeadmin-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdeartwork-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdeartwork-icons-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdebase-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdebase-devel-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdeedu-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdegames-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdegraphics-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdegraphics-devel-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdelibs-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdelibs-devel-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdemultimedia-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdenetwork-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdenetwork-devel-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdepim-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdepim-devel-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdesdk-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdesdk-devel-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdetoys-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdeutils-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm kdeutils-devel-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm qt-3.2.3-0.2.i386.rpm qt-designer-3.2.3-0.2.i386.rpm qt-devel-3.2.3-0.2.i386.rpm quanta-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm plus the dependency redhat-artwork-0.90-0.1.i386.rpm (although my package was version 0.88-2.i386.rpm since it wasn't included on the mirror I choose and I found that it was required so I just went and found one myself) Don't forget to do your md5 checksums afterwards. To install the packages, you basically do a mass install and let the RedHat Package Manager sort the correct order out. This cannot be done whilst KDE is still running. I downloaded all the rpm's into a folder in my /home directory then exited X and dropped into runlevel 3 using "telinit 3". Then (as root) just navigate to that folder and use the following command "rpm -Uvh *.rpm". You will see a pause and then the progress bars as each package is installed. Will take a wee bit. Wait until you get 100% and the return of the root prompt #. Then "telinit 5" back into the new KDE 3.2 :D If you have any dependency problems you will be told quite quickly and installation will not start. If you need more specified instructions on the installation bit, just let me know and I will do a step-by-step guide. :) Jen |
Jen C (20) | ||
| 212643 | 2004-02-04 23:46:00 | >As I write this, kdebase i386 (presumably a CD image file?) is downloading Oops - forgot to answer your question :8}. Do you mean this package kdebase-3.2.0-0.1.i386.rpm? It is just the K Desktop core files packaged up into a rpm format and not a CD image. It gets installed like any other rpm does and the method I described above will install it in the correct order along with the rest of the rpm's. You may note from my package list, that I have choosen not to install every package available, put I picked what I wanted from the list. You don't always need the devel (development) packages but I like having them installed as it saves the bother of finding them at some later date when you realise some new application you have compiled requires it as a dependency. |
Jen C (20) | ||
| 212644 | 2004-02-05 00:55:00 | Technically there's only 4 Major Packages you need for KDE: arts <<-- KDE Sound Daemon qt <<-- KDE Window Manager kdelibs <<-- KDE Shared Libraries, sometimes even installed if you're running GNOME kdebase <<-- The base files for KDE The rest are 'optional' extras, but functionality will be improved with the other packages :-) Hope this helps Chill. |
Chilling_Silently (228) | ||
| 212645 | 2004-02-05 01:18:00 | > qt <<-- KDE Window Manager QT isn't the window manager, that would be kwin (try killing it and see what happens, just leave a terminal open so you can restart it) whihc is part of kdebase. qt is the toolkit used to draw the widgets in all the apps. eg buttons, scrollbars, tabs etc. Basically everything that makes up a kde app. GTK is the gnome equivilant. |
bmason (508) | ||
| 212646 | 2004-02-05 01:22:00 | Thanks Jen and Chill for your help, yet again - I understand (and that is my most confident statement of today!). I will not download any of the devel rpms at this stage Jen cos the only dependency I know how to deal with has nothing to do with computers! I will download everything else and just let them fight amongst themselves. I have not yet figured out how to "exit(..) X and drop(...) into runlevel 3 using 'telinit 3'"! In fact X is still an utter mystery to me. If you use the Desktop Switching Tool to change from Gnome to KDE, it tells you to restart the X Windows system, and I haven't figured that out yet, so I just reboot... Sigh... As you can see, I am a noob and yet this teaches you about computing in a way in which the Mac and Doze boxes don't, so I guess I will be a stronger and better person at the end! (Wot end?) ;-) Thanks for your patience and assistance. |
John H (8) | ||
| 212647 | 2004-02-05 01:47:00 | Jen C - did you download and install kdeedu.rpm? At 22.6Mb, it is bigger than kdebase! Can you tell me what it does? Thanks John |
John H (8) | ||
| 212648 | 2004-02-05 01:51:00 | John H did not read what is in front of his eyes and stupidly asked: >Jen C - did you download and install kdeedu.rpm? Oops - it is in your list above. Can you tell me what it does? Thanks John |
John H (8) | ||
| 212649 | 2004-02-05 02:15:00 | The kdeedu package contains Educational/Edutainment applications. My Edutainment menu contains a section for Languages, Mathematics, Science and Teaching Tools each with their own submenu of related programs. Basically if kids are not going to be using the computer, and you are not a big kid at heart yourself, just leave off this package. Saying that, the Hangman Game (KHangMan) which is part of that package is rather fun :D |
Jen C (20) | ||
| 212650 | 2004-02-05 02:21:00 | Thanks Jen. No, I am the only big kid around here, but I have enough to do without that package! And my SO (The Teacher) isn't interested in messing around with Linux (yet) so I will give it a miss. Thanks for that. John |
John H (8) | ||
| 1 2 3 4 5 | |||||