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212891 2004-02-05 03:48:00 > $144 Trade Price
> $159 Retail Price

Thanks, GF - precise as usual ! It looks like Modems 1, Routers about 5 .... 		TonyF (246)
212892 2004-02-05 05:18:00 I did the investigations before I went on ADSL, and it was clear that internal PCI ADSL modems may be cheap but they could be a heap of trouble, particularly security wise.

As I needed to connect several PCs to the web, the router was so easy. Plugged it unto the hub on my network and set the PCs to obtain their IP's from the router, acting as the DHCP host, set the log-in on the router.
That was it. Never needed to touch it since.
Never turn it off, any PC can access the web at any time, instantly.

If my Alcatel router had network ports as well, I wouldn't need the hub but as I already had it that was fine.

I can connect a guest PC to the web in about 30 seconds after plugging them into my network.

Remember you need a network card in your PC to access the router though. 		godfather (25)
212893 2004-02-05 05:45:00 > As I needed to connect several PCs to the web, the
> router was so easy.
My sit is a single PC, all stealth courtesy Steve Gibson. As Mzee suggests, the DSE router looks OK.
> Remember you need a network card in your PC to access
> the router though.
Noted.
This topic could well do with an article from the gnomes of PCWNZ.
Chris ?? Bruce ??? 		TonyF (246)
212894 2004-02-05 06:21:00 Cheap DSL routers are best to be avoided in my opinion. Usually they lack some features that can be essential for internet use, ie Virtual servers, VPN passthrough and an inbuilt SPI firewall.

I've had experience with a D-Link ADSL modem and they are a pain in the neck when trying to host online multiplayer games etc because the other players can't get a direct connection to your computer.

Pay the marginal extra and get an Alcatel or Dynalink router. 		PoWa (203)
212895 2004-02-05 07:25:00 Usually they lack some features that can be
> essential for internet use, ie Virtual servers, VPN
> passthrough and an inbuilt SPI firewall.
>
> I've had experience with a D-Link ADSL modem and they
> are a pain in the neck when trying to host online
> multiplayer games etc because the other players can't
> get a direct connection to your computer.
Maybe, PoWa, but perhaps this thread could continue for those folk who are not into heavy gaming.
> Pay the marginal extra and get an Alcatel or Dynalink
> router.
I'm listening ..
Cheers T 		TonyF (246)
212896 2004-02-05 08:20:00 Well gaming was one example of why someone is better equipped with a router than a modem. Others have provided you with other reasons. I guess there are at least 50 different reasons but you might require a specialist to list them all.

But if you just use the internet for surfing and email, by all means get a warehouse modem. :) 		PoWa (203)
212897 2004-02-08 07:23:00 > DSE ADSL Ethernet Router exellent in all respects.
> Price has now been reduced to $145. Well worth it.
> Has 4 ADSL sockets and 1 USB socket.
> Always connects in a few seconds.
Several threads show others like this one. Relative merits of USB connect and Ethernet for a single PC ?
Cheers T 		TonyF (246)
212898 2004-02-08 07:33:00 Tony, if your asking as to whether USB is ok for ADSL routers/modems in comparison to Ethernet the answer is about as good as PCI. Ethernet is the only way to go IMO.

Cheers Murray P 		Murray P (44)
212899 2004-02-08 08:27:00 > Tony, if your asking as to whether USB is ok for ADSL
> routers/modems in comparison to Ethernet the answer
> is about as good as PCI. Ethernet is the only way to
> go IMO.
>
> Cheers Murray P
Hello Murray. Could well be, but relative merits (if any ..) ?
Cheers again T 		TonyF (246)
212900 2004-02-08 08:32:00 Say you were HEAVILY into games and now all your friends want you to host games etc, how would you go about allowing them to connect to your computer if your Router's firewall blocked it MrBeef (342)
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