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Thread ID: 42333	2004-02-08 04:26:00	ISP's and connection speeds	drcspy (146)	Press F1

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213663	2004-02-08 18:56:00	ok lets take these points one at a time 'Plug in a cheap cordless phone, fax machine, monitored alarm the quality drops. Throw a few electric fences, corroded connectors, software modems, and bad drivers into the mix and you're already looking at the slippery slope to a connection measured in baud rather than bps' I agree with all of them BUT.................i run two phone lines and one is a dedicated net connection with nothing else on it............and .......as someone else says........if it connects at x speed with one isp then a better speed with another isp ...........well .......it seems obvious that the first isp is giveing you a poor connection .................... '3. Experiences with ISP's are subjective. Take your rant with Xtra for example - if someone asked you about Xtra you'd trash them from here to the Arctic and back, ask 250,000 other people and they'd probably be really happy' actually untill the speed started dropping recently I have been quite fine with xtra however I DO work on a LOT of other computers and LOTS of them have much faster apparent connection speeds '4. An ISP is hardly going to encourage broadband take up in a huge way - broadband is a lot more expensive to provide and maintain, and they certainly wouldn't attempt it by supposedly "degrading" existing services as people would move away - simple business sense' Shows how much you know about business.............of COURSE the isp is going to encourage broadband they make more money on it .............WHY would they be advertising 'JETSTREAM' all over the place if they are not tryign to encourage it ?>................geez........your logical analysis skills seem to be lacking a bit here........... '	drcspy (146)
213664	2004-02-08 19:12:00	Apart from all the ramblings. What about you trying your internet on your OTHER phone line instead of the dedicated internet phone line, or better yet take your computer to a mates place to test it out.f You'll probably find that its you're location	MrBeef (342)
213665	2004-02-08 19:24:00	thanks MrBeef but I still say.............how come I can connect on xtra at a crap speed and then dial up seconds later on another isp and get a good speed..........that tends to suggest to me that it's not the phone line/location/ whatever .......it says to me it's the isp......	drcspy (146)
213666	2004-02-09 05:12:00	Sorry drcspy if you are going to make a statement that you are a tech and then ask an entry level question as such then you've got to be prepared that someone will have a go at you, especially when you were rude to a help desk. The reason you are connecting at two different speeds to two differnt ISP's is simple Lets say xtra terminates its exchange at point A and TelstraClear terminates its exchange at point B Now as a tech you will know that you can only connect at the top speed of the slowest link between your pc and point A or B. In your case the link between you and Telstraclear is of better quality then between you and xtra. Who's problems this.......... well most likely Telecom since they own the lines. However its not going to be xtras fault and they won't have been purposefully degrading there performance. I'm sure a few xtra users could back me up on this one.	roofus (483)
213667	2004-02-09 05:14:00	Certainly you had the right to defend yourself, drcspy, but IMHO, you could have been more reserved in your defense. There's no need to go off putting down other people, just because they put you down.	agent (30)
213668	2004-02-09 11:03:00	i agree with agent... even though you are a tech.. there's no way you can know everything about computers.. it is impossible you will know much much more than me.. but at the same time i will have some computer knowledge that you don't have people also have different opinions on things i always get pissed off with xtra and other isp i was so angry about them i also got a 2nd fone line too technology always sucks when you need it the most... it is man made after all... man aren't perfect.. so won't our inventions.. ... just a thought..	heni72847 (1166)
213669	2004-02-09 12:03:00	Don't worry drcspy. WTF has a reputation on the forum for being one of the most veracible and rude men on it. Don't let it get to you. I think anyone in their right mind would have a go at some useless helpdesk staff if they were being rude. They sit at the phone all day because it matches their IQ level just like pizza hut call operators. I hear stories all the time of how helpdesk staff deliberately try to annoy their users. Ring up the telco faults service and see if theres a fault on the line. If there isn't, quit xtra, join another ISP, stay with the other ISP. Then ring up xtra again, rant and rave, and then close the account with them.	aroc (3256)
213670	2004-02-09 18:08:00	rufus fair point 'Lets say xtra terminates its exchange at point A and TelstraClear terminates its exchange at point B' not sure on that one however that they terminate at diffeent points.......as i believe they share lines in almost every center in nz...... hmmm.....	drcspy (146)
213671	2004-02-09 18:27:00	> rufus fair point 'Lets say xtra terminates its > exchange at point A > and TelstraClear terminates its exchange at point B' > > not sure on that one however that they terminate at > diffeent points . . . . . . . as i believe they share lines > in almost every center in nz . . . . . . hmmm . . . . . > I'm thinking you just want a reason to slag off Telecom . Not even prepared to listen to the potential reasons why . So i will leave you to it	roofus (483)
213672	2004-02-10 04:11:00	lets start a flame war it'll get us nowhere, a moderator will lock this, and tell us off seriously back to the question try a temporary account with another isp Clear Net (www.clear.net.nz) is fast, and i have heard a lot of good things about Orcon (http:) MM	Megaman (344)
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