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214080 2004-02-09 18:55:00 Last night I was setting up a new Dell pc(not a warehouse Dell) for a friend.
While I was online a message popped up & said I had an incoming call & that the isp did not support putting the modem on hold,Did I want to disconnect so I could take the call or ignore it & carry on with my internet session?
The phone line I was using has call waiting enabled.
As I was doing software updates I chose to ignore & carry on.

The question is: Do all V.92 modems give this Pop up message when there is an incoming call?

Steve
Steve Askew (119)
214081 2004-02-10 04:27:00 As far as I know there is no support from any ISP in NZ for V.92 standard so therefore whatever happened it was not because of the modem type.

I could be wrong about this but if anyone knows otherwise can they please post the ISP link so that I can join.

CU Rob.
zqwerty (97)
214082 2004-02-10 04:46:00 I disagree with that zqwerty .

There is no reason why the modem software cannot alert you that there is a call waiting on the line, provided that you actually have Call Waiting service enabled on your phone line by telecom .

I understand some of the latest V . 92 do drivers detect the call waiting tones and pop-up the alert .

Its nothing whatever to do with the ISP . They don't put the call waiting tones on, Telecom (or Clear) do .

If you choose to answer the call you will drop the connection of course .
godfather (25)
214083 2004-02-10 04:46:00 It obviously is due to the modem being a V92 as this is one of its functions but as pointed out Telecom and ISP's don't support it.

Some modems will disconnect with an incoming call if you have call waiting on your phone line and what you were getting I suspect is an indication of this and most likely if you had left it the modem would have disconnected.

Whether the modem will disconnect with an incoming call depends on many factors and may not work for all people.
Jim B (153)
214084 2004-02-10 06:13:00 I played around with six of the latest and not so modern V.92 modems and they are pretty dumb machines. I looked at the intel data and it is pretty standard stuff as far as I can see.

CU Rob.
zqwerty (97)
214085 2004-02-10 06:37:00 So - Whats your point. Jim B (153)
214086 2004-02-10 06:42:00 As I understood it the V.92 is not working at all on any ISP and is defaulted down to V.90. It may be that it can give messages when setup in the correct way but in my recent travels through a fair amout of data on modems I saw no mention of this in fact none of the modems I saw had a micro processor onboard and I looked at the latest ones and also some older types in my quest for a better modem than my Windows 95 vintage flex modem. zqwerty (97)
214087 2004-02-10 07:46:00 Well, I don't write the articles, I only report them . You can choose to believe them or not .

The following is from www . modemsite:

"Many of today's modems can recover from significant line noise hits - including the call waiting tone that you may get if you have the call waiting feature on your line . The V . 92 modem standard allows the modem user to decide how to handle call-waiting: ignore, disconnect, or, when connecting to a V . 92 ISP, to place the Internet connection on hold and take the call . "

"If your connection isn't to a V . 92 ISP, the MoH software will pop-up with caller-id information and option to disconnect or ignore . "

"PCTel V . 92 driver includes MoH pop-up, but no other user interface"

Again, I repeat:
It has zip to do with any ISP supporting V . 92, and of course it will communicate at V . 90 protocols .

If the driver software (using the PC CPU) supports recognition of "Call Waiting" tones and pops up a message to say whats happening, then thats what's happening here .

Not sure why you assume it has a processor on board, its rare these days as its too expensive (pity though)

That you have not found any such supporting info in your searching is disappointing, but it does not mean it doesn't exist .
godfather (25)
214088 2004-02-10 08:34:00 Yes judging from that documentation you are right and I concede that I was wrong.

At the moment I cannot get into one of the sites I looked at but here is the link:

developer.intel.com

CU Rob.
zqwerty (97)
214089 2004-02-10 09:48:00 Thanks for that info Godfather, It seems that it is a standard V.92 feature.
It was the first time I had seen a popup giving options to take the call or ignore it & thought it could be a useful idea for people with only one phone line.

When I had a look tonight at V.92 options in control panel there are options such as Automaticly drop internet connection when there is an incoming call & ignore incoming calls.

Steve
Steve Askew (119)
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