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| Thread ID: 130026 | 2013-03-24 05:57:00 | Interesting article on NZ Navy mutiny | prefect (6291) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 1333882 | 2013-03-24 05:57:00 | Defence has done a good job hushing it up | prefect (6291) | ||
| 1333883 | 2013-03-24 06:12:00 | Is/was something supposed to appear on the screen? Or is the link invisible..........................? :( |
Zippity (58) | ||
| 1333884 | 2013-03-24 06:19:00 | Defence has done a blardy good job hushing it up Corrected. :) |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1333885 | 2013-03-24 06:56:00 | Is/was something supposed to appear on the screen? Or is the link invisible..........................? :(i believe it's a non story |
plod (107) | ||
| 1333886 | 2013-03-24 07:16:00 | **** sorry men, should not post after knocking off a box of Woodies today. linko en.wikipedia.org |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1333887 | 2013-03-25 13:28:00 | I heard of the RNZN Mutiny from an Army Sergeant I knew, Howard Fry, who was a CPO in the Navy at the time of the Mutiny. He and 2 POs secured the Armoury at Philomel to ensure no firearms could be taken by the Mutineers. Howard had an interesting Naval career having been a Gunner's Mate on HMNZS Archilles during the Battle of the River Plate. After leaving the NZ Navy, Howard joined the NZ Army in the Armoured Corps and from what I can remember served on until retiring in the late 60s. Commander Peter Phipps, in the account, had a long and Successful Career, rising to the rank of Vice Admiral and being the Chief of Naval Staff in the mid sixties, and being knighted, he was considered the founding father of the RNZN. The Royal New Zealand Navy, only acquired that name post WW2, up till then it had been the New Zealand Station of the Royal Navy, with many of the Senior Officers being RN, and the RN supplied the ships - As much as the RNZN is concerned, in New Zealand it is the Junior Service, at its battle honours are RN battle honours. In New Zealand the NZ Army is the Senior Service, having had that title since the Boer War, The RNZAF is the next senior, with the NZ Permanent Air Force being renamed the Royal New Zealand Air Force in 1937. During WW2 some 102,000 men served in the NZ Army, 45,000 in the RNZAF and 29,000 in Naval Forces through the New Zealand Station of the Royal Navy. A very creditable effort from a Country with a population of 1.5 million, ie over 10% of the total population, the highest percentage of belligerents of any nation in the allied forces. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 1333888 | 2013-03-25 20:09:00 | Interesting. Thanks prefect and Ken. | WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1333889 | 2013-03-26 03:49:00 | I heard of the RNZN Mutiny from an Army Sergeant I knew, Howard Fry, who was a CPO in the Navy at the time of the Mutiny. He and 2 POs secured the Armoury at Philomel to ensure no firearms could be taken by the Mutineers. Howard had an interesting Naval career having been a Gunner's Mate on HMNZS Archilles during the Battle of the River Plate. After leaving the NZ Navy, Howard joined the NZ Army in the Armoured Corps and from what I can remember served on until retiring in the late 60s. Commander Peter Phipps, in the account, had a long and Successful Career, rising to the rank of Vice Admiral and being the Chief of Naval Staff in the mid sixties, and being knighted, he was considered the founding father of the RNZN. The Royal New Zealand Navy, only acquired that name post WW2, up till then it had been the New Zealand Station of the Royal Navy, with many of the Senior Officers being RN, and the RN supplied the ships - As much as the RNZN is concerned, in New Zealand it is the Junior Service, at its battle honours are RN battle honours. In New Zealand the NZ Army is the Senior Service, having had that title since the Boer War, The RNZAF is the next senior, with the NZ Permanent Air Force being renamed the Royal New Zealand Air Force in 1937. During WW2 some 102,000 men served in the NZ Army, 45,000 in the RNZAF and 29,000 in Naval Forces through the New Zealand Station of the Royal Navy. A very creditable effort from a Country with a population of 1.5 million, ie over 10% of the total population, the highest percentage of belligerents of any nation in the allied forces. Lol try telling a NZ Navy person that the Navy isnt the senior service. They get it drummed into them they are. But as you say they are junior service. Had a fair bit to do with the Navy spent time on Monowai, Southland, Waikato and Endeavour and never heard anyone say a thing about the mutiny, maybe they are too embarrassed. The Airforce had a mini mutiny just after WW2 about working on Saturdays and passes etc still on war time footing. It was quickly settled. Their was a singlemans mutiny in Singapore in the sixties if you could call it when they found out married peoples child allowance for one kid was more than a single mans allowance. Plus singles had pass restrictions and marriedies didnt although the place was still in curfew for the commie indon confrontation in Singers and Malaya. The airforce did not hush these up. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1333890 | 2013-03-26 13:14:00 | "Their was a singlemans mutiny in Singapore in the sixties if you could call it when they found out married peoples child allowance for one kid was more than a single mans allowance . Plus singles had pass restrictions and marriedies didnt although the place was still in curfew for the commie indon confrontation in Singers and Malaya" There was even a nastier one that came out of confrontation with Indonesia . Married men were repatriated to New Zealand where practical, to be replaced by single men when there was likelihood that there was going to be combat operations . The rationale was simple - it was cheaper to have the dirty work and risk taking done by single men, lower pay and lower LOA and if a single guy got killed it was not necessary for compensation to be paid, because there were no dependents . It was called Mum's airforce . Different story with the RAF, our squadron was told they were deploying to Singapore, we were given 24 hours off to put our affairs in order, and we went, we were away for over 3 years . Same thing happen in 73 when the Turks invaded Cyprus, we were told at Ops morning prayers that 6 UK squadrons were deploying to Cyrus that day, we were one of them, go any tidy up your affairs, be back by 1400 . We took off just after 1900 with the Bomb bays full and at 2015 were hooked up to a tanker off the south of France to take on enough fuel to get to Akrotiri . We flew regular CAPs over the Turkish area and the front, but no bastard ever fired on us to give us the excuse to burn them with Sneb 65mm rockets . We were there for 3 months, not doing a lot except drinking the local booze (they called it wine), which ranged from drinkable to bloody near poisonous . There was a sweet bloody rough red, named Kokkinelli, that if one drank enough to be sick, you could be excused for thinking you were haemorrhaging, and it came with hangovers that were memorable, death where is thy sting . It was a nasty little stoush, the Greeks Cypriots treated the Turkish Minority atrociously, in Limasol they rounded up over 2000 of them and had them caged in the local football stadium with minimal water and even less sanitation and precious little shelter . the Greek Cypriots claimed they were the victims but the richly deserved any fettling they got from the Turks . |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 1333891 | 2013-03-27 02:47:00 | I am firmly on the Turkish side. I bet the Greeks must be ***** off their economy is a basket case and the Turks is strong. If there was ever a war the Greeks would so get a hiding. | prefect (6291) | ||
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