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| 215389 | 2004-02-18 03:21:00 | I wouldn't say 7Gb limit is generous at all. Its stingy. Its calculated at 10x the median usage, which for some reason never changes at all, even though they are getting new users all the time. Probably because the median isn't affected by extreme values, but it still should've changed off 700mb by now. I'm guessing woosh was only used by pompous aucklanders to check their email and do a little surfing. We need lots of hard-outs to come along and download the limit each month, so the median increases. | PoWa (203) | ||
| 215390 | 2004-02-18 04:19:00 | I think you can thank Sky TV for restricting competition in NZ. If they hadn't we would have Cable TV/Broadband. I miss my Cable modem, with it's staggering speeds high caps, fixed IP, and reasonable costs. Downloaded at speeds up to 8Mbps on an experimetal system in Canada last year. New Technology on the close horizon with IP over power lines in the Mb range. |
CapnRon (2125) | ||
| 215391 | 2004-02-18 18:41:00 | > I wouldn't say 7Gb limit is generous at all. Its > stingy. Its calculated at 10x the median usage, which > for some reason never changes at all, even > though they are getting new users all the time. > Probably because the median isn't affected by extreme > values, but it still should've changed off 700mb by > now. I'm guessing woosh was only used by pompous > aucklanders to check their email and do a little > surfing. We need lots of hard-outs to come along and > download the limit each month, so the median > increases. ........... Well given that the median is 700mb then one can only imagine you are an extreme user. Maybe you could pay them a bit more for a few more Gb. My flatmate and I use jetstream and we do a variety of things on the net and i don't think once we have gone over 500mb. So when you say you use 7gb a month, then i think your an extreme user and then i also think................. how ofter do you have to buy bigger hard disks! |
roofus (483) | ||
| 215392 | 2004-02-18 19:04:00 | Actually IP over powerlines aint gonna happen. When woosh called me to tell me i was using over 7GB I had a huge arguement with them, the chick i spoke too had no clue, i was downloading mainly national traffic and explained to her that this doesnt cost as much..anyways i rang back and spoke to one of their technical staff who waqs grat and totally agreed with me... whats the point of having a higher speed if you can make the most of it.... like i need to get my 10GB quicker? im still with them but think their 700MB avg usage is absolute crap, they seriously need to revise their limitations. |
Bender (4840) | ||
| 215393 | 2004-02-18 20:46:00 | > Actually IP over powerlines aint gonna happen. Agreed In a telecom situation, ADSL facilities at an exchange level can service all lines at the exchange (with the connection of each line to the hardware) and provide the "backbone" high capacity link away. With PLT (Power Line Technology) the signal cannot reliably travel past the LV transformer. That means the infrastructure must exist at each transformer. As each transformer in the cities can service a couple of hundred connections only, compared to many thousands serviced by an exchange, the cost implications are already negative. The range is only a few hundred metres for this reason. In rural areas, often each connection has its own transformer. That makes it prohibitive. Low speed data can travel better through the transformers, but thats no good to broadband needs. There is no question that broadband over power lines works, its well proven. How we can afford it is the problem. |
godfather (25) | ||
| 215394 | 2004-02-18 21:55:00 | Sorry but I bring you tiding of great joy: www.itbusiness.ca And, Oz is having conipshuns trying to regulate it right now. They have brought in spectrum management to say it will cause interference in the lower freq. Too bad they don't know the realities. This is the sixth deployment worldwide, mostly experimental until recently. It is now being deployed worldwide so continue to think this will go away. This and CATV broadband is an area I am familiar with. With respect to Woosh AKA Walker Wireless, I reverted to ADSL via ihug, and am using the intro pkg. This is almost as cheap as a dial up if you had a dedicated line like I did, and *way* better. I don't do a lot of heavy downloading anymore and the speed of this is just fine for this aplication. Truth to tell I'm happy with the download speeds too. ihug had the best deal in town with respect to cost and features. Their pkg doesn't apply national IP use to the tally and the price is reasonably open ended. So far I have been clean every month. |
CapnRon (2125) | ||
| 215395 | 2004-02-18 22:13:00 | It does cause severe interference. It was done in the UK (Nor.Web) and shut down in 1999. Read the report of the Smith Group, done for the UK Govt. It makes it almost impossible to use anything like this in the UK now, unless you can regulate the interference. Every street light becomes a transmitter. Fine if you never want to use the radio spectrum again. However what you link to is a little different, its actually Wireless at each end, using the PLT to bridge it. Again though it looks like its limited to the confines of heavily utilised LV systems, and not suited to NZ rural. |
godfather (25) | ||
| 215396 | 2004-02-18 22:52:00 | > Well given that the median is 700mb then one can only imagine you are an extreme user. Maybe you could pay them a bit more for a few more Gb. My flatmate and I use jetstream and we do a variety of things on the net and i don't think once we have gone over 500mb. So when you say you use 7gb a month, then i think your an extreme user and then i also think................. how ofter do you have to buy bigger hard disks! 500mb is nothing, nothing! Its not even a cds worth of data yet you pay well over $60 for it. What do you even use the internet for? IMO theres much more to the internet than email and surfing. Your wasting your money. We actually run a home business here, and have to upload data to a site. The pages are about 500kb in size and are frequently uploaded and downloaded, so you can't do that very often without clocking up some usage. > There is no question that broadband over power lines works, its well proven. How we can afford it is the problem. Easy, we vote National into Govt and stop this endless crap by giving the Maoris everything they want. We'll save about $300M a year. But what I would rather see, than using groundwork for internet, is everyone having a direct up and down link to satellites for their internet. No routing through ISP's, telco networks, just direct connection to the internet. You being your own ISP. I would liken it to one massive P2P networked LAN. > When woosh called me to tell me i was using over 7GB I had a huge arguement with them, the chick i spoke too had no clue, i was downloading mainly national traffic and explained to her that this doesnt cost as much..anyways i rang back and spoke to one of their technical staff who waqs grat and totally agreed with me... whats the point of having a higher speed if you can make the most of it.... like i need to get my 10GB quicker? > im still with them but think their 700MB avg usage is absolute crap, they seriously need to revise their limitations. So what did they suggest to you seeing that you were going over? "Uhh we thing you should go onto a business plan, and only get 1Gb a month"?? Or did you strike up a deal to get more MB usage out of them. I would like it if woosh gave national traffic for free or something to that effect, or dramatically increase the quota. Because they aren't much competition at the moment with telecom. Besides the high latenency isn't great so they should be compensating for that with high data caps or something. |
PoWa (203) | ||
| 215397 | 2004-02-18 23:14:00 | Powerline Broadband: Actually noise is no longer an issue with the new system Its funny the Ozy's haven't picked up on that. :-) I still miss my CableModem! |
CapnRon (2125) | ||
| 215398 | 2004-02-18 23:14:00 | > . . . > Easy, we vote National into Govt and stop this > endless crap by giving the Maoris everything they > want . We'll save about $300M a year . > Do you really think that when National comes into power the situation will be better??? No, no, no . I totally DO NOT agree . The bunch of politicians in NZ (or the whole world?) are all the same . They only care about their own pockets . Whether it is National, Labour, Act, NZ First (or 2nd, or Last) it makes no difference . The best solution is to work hard, fight our own way through and protect our own interests . Never, ever rely on any of the politicians!! |
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