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| Thread ID: 42583 | 2004-02-15 17:19:00 | Completely OT. | JJJJJ (528) | Press F1 |
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| 215789 | 2004-02-15 23:28:00 | This thread is remarkably off topic,i think there should be an off topic forum as theres alot of off topic threads /heh Everyone dies of something really? SO now smoking is a good way to die early? as opposed to moderation and a healthy lifestyle ! Your assumption is that smoking kills u off early in a comfortable way( which it doesnt seem to do?!) Compared to not smoking and being a pain to your family for yrs Think about that for a minute. Emphesemia anyone? (cant spell it) Personally-people can smoke if they want.My mum smokes so i avoid it. Studies prove(flame attacks incoming) that 2nd hand smoking results in as much damage as a smoker themselves. And if i dislike going to a place that has too much smoke il go somewhere else.I think that having the choice is whats important A rule enforcing the people to go outside at ALL locations is just dumb, our government is going bizarre thinkn that every little problem can be solved with legislation...'plans of mice and men often go astray' says some poet..which they can and regularly do by a well meaning Gov. [b]But what about the RSAs? are they being told they cant smoke there? i heard they were-thats just outragous- denying some one the choice. Pro choice i am.... Cheers |
toxicbass (4045) | ||
| 215790 | 2004-02-16 03:35:00 | Yes i agree we are all going to die, but the choice to smoke or not smoke can lengthen your life, i wish my dad had made the choice not to smoke at 14 instead of the choice smoking is ok, and yes he has emphasemia (sp) and his life span has been shortened dramatically. he has made it to 70 something but more than likely never see 80 something let alone 75 if he deteriates as fast as he has been, it has not just effected his life but my mothers as well, as she has to do everything he cannot even walk to letter box to check the mail some days. his health has also affected the level of everyday input my family has to do to help them, im not begrudgeing this, i love my dad dearly and dread the day he will no longer be with us. Yes we have a choice to not smoke but back then there was not an acknowledgement that it may be harmful, as today it is plastered all over the packets. and i would respect other people decision's of not smoking in there house, just as i dont like it happening in my house, but to force someone to sit in the vicinity of a smoker when you dont smoke, and you are being covered in their 2nd hand smoke is just as harmful, and also rude to their basic rights. this is not a really good subject for me to discuss as it is too close to home at this point, but i beleive we all have options, if it is harmful to others then it is the wrong option in my opinion. beetle |
beetle (243) | ||
| 215791 | 2004-02-16 04:12:00 | > Compared to what, Jack? The exhaust pipe of a used > Japanese diesel 4x4? Exactly, his Dr may have cleared him of any problems . Hell I know people who smoked a pack a day who had cancer everywhere but the lungs/throat area . > Your post is outrageously OT and with the number of > young people using PF1 it is utterly irresponsible . This is no more OT than "hey my fridge isn't working" a thread which lasted forever . And yup of course, everyone here is completely mindless and unable to form their own opinions or make sensible decisions . In fact having read that post I'm on my way now to buy a carton of Winfields and a lighter - see if I can get them finished by tomorrow - it won't do anything to me . > Shame on you . Shame on you for under-estimating the intelligence of other PressF1ites . If you want to moderate content, start your own forum . |
whiskeytangofoxtrot (438) | ||
| 215792 | 2004-02-16 04:21:00 | WTF don't waste your money. Think of what else you could buy for $87 dollars. Come to think of it, not much. |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
| 215793 | 2004-02-16 04:22:00 | I'll add my little piece Jack. I tend to agree the smoke police are over officious, and we are seeing other types of self appointed police trying to safeguard us from ourselves, for example , trying to protect us when we are out in the wilderness, converting wilderness to comfortable, safe, tourist tracks and huts/bridges etc, which then encourages even more tourists, and ever more demands for "facilities" :( I could go on and on and on about this......... and become a pain in the bum :) However back to smoking, I used to smoke a pipe, and gradually smoked more and more, all the while trying to kid myself that as my blood pressure was ok, very good in fact, and that I wasn't overweight, and that I could tramp for 13 hours, carry 55lb pack and so on, nothing was going to happen, and I was OK. Then I had a heart attack just over 12 years ago, and haven't smoked since. The big problem that smokers have is that they will not readily admit they are hooked, it is just as big a problem for them as being an alcoholic. Non-smokers also don't make allowances for the smoker being addicted. However, if you visit non-smokers homes, then it is only courteous to refrain from smoking, and not even asking if you can smoke. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 215794 | 2004-02-16 04:35:00 | i am at high school, don't smoke and don't intend to i remember a while back on the news there was this old fool on tv. a smoker. his toes were rotten and falling off. yet he kept smoking his head off and is still costing the non smokers lots. why wou|d you start? |
Megaman (344) | ||
| 215795 | 2004-02-16 04:40:00 | I don't smoke, only ever bought one pack, a ten pack, with a kid in Standard 2, Navy Cuts, no filters, took us a month to smoke them. I have an enzyme deficiency that means that my lungs over-repair damage so damaging them by smoking would have a bigger impact on me than the average person. It could mean if I inhaled a lot of smoke I might need an injection of the stuff I lack to sort my lungs out. I can't ever be a firefighter (okay, I can live with that). My son has it too, maybe my daughter, we haven't tested her for it. I don't want my kids doing it. I am not taking any risks, and cannot be near smokers without coughing my lungs out. (BTW, on a lung capacity test once for life insurance, I pushed the thing off the chart and it got stuck, so I'm okay so far). It also affects my liver, and cannot drink much alcohol (so can't get plastered, probably can't drink enough to be over the limit for driving). Again, this isn't really a problem, I've never been a heavy drinker (well not much). Apparently, a surprising percentage of Europeans have this, but most don't know it. Jack, you're one of the lucky ones. My Grandfather was called Jack, he had the condition too, and had Emphesima (sp?) since he was like 20 (he died when he was 82, so you can't argue that it killed him, but it did slow him down a bit). I don't really care if people smoke or not. I do care if they light up in confined spaces. Considerate smokers are no problem at all. It strikes me as a waste of money, but then so are lots of things I spend my money on. That's my two cents, anyway. robo. |
robo (205) | ||
| 215796 | 2004-02-16 05:13:00 | > (BTW, on a lung > capacity test once for life insurance, I pushed the > thing off the chart and it got stuck, so I'm okay so > far). Heh... I bet that was one of those old spirometers. We did some work with those when I was at Uni... all the rugby blokes tried to no avail to get it to the top, I (being a wind musician) popped the cylinder right out the top, quite amusing. Apparently lung capacity has increased heaps in the last 40 years or so - yay evolution :-) |
whiskeytangofoxtrot (438) | ||
| 215797 | 2004-02-16 05:17:00 | >>about the dangers of smoking What dangers? Smoking is perfectly safe (said Mr Winfield and Mr Pall Mall) :D I tried it once, talk about cough on the smoke. 30 years ago it will still cool for teenagers to smoke, but I couldn't see what the fun was about (maybe I never experienced the small effect smoking has on the brain). We all have choices. If you wanna smoke, smoke but I like my air clean (blimmin cars pollute it too!). Man has been smoking for hundreds of years. I don't think they will stop tomorrow. |
Dolby Digital (160) | ||
| 215798 | 2004-02-16 05:30:00 | Any Family Guy watchers remember the Tobbaco Company episode? | whiskeytangofoxtrot (438) | ||
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