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217030 2004-02-20 23:08:00 Hi guys well I've finally managed to install Fedora, and I must say it looks really smooth, I just have to get used to the KDE interface now.

I have one problem though... when I boot up into Fedora I get a dialog box which says the following

"Sound server informational message:
Error while initializing the sound driver:
can't start sound i/o.
The sound server will continue, using the null output device"

With my recent installations of Red Hat 8/9 I couldn't get my mp3's to play, but I never had this message appear at all.

Now I was thinking... I have an onboard audio chip ( Sound Max 5.1) but it's disabled and I use my Sound Blaster Live 5.1 card instead... could this be the problem with the sound system or is there something else.

Also can I install the Open Office package (1.5 I think it is) from the PC World CD over the default Open Office installation which comes with Fedora or do I have to uninstall it first?

cheers
chiefnz
chiefnz (545)
217031 2004-02-21 00:25:00 > I have one problem though... when I boot up into
> Fedora I get a dialog box which says the following
>
> "Sound server informational message:
> Error while initializing the sound driver:
> can't start sound i/o.
> The sound server will continue, using the null output
> device"

Have you got any sound at all? Run redhat-config-soundcard and test the soundcard detection. To see whether it is an issue with the KDE sounds look under Control Centre > Sound & Multimedia > Sound System and try the test.

Also post back here with the output of:
cat /proc/pci
cat /etc/modules.conf
cat /proc/modules
ls -L -l /dev/dsp*

These details will help troubleshoot the problem area.

> With my recent installations of Red Hat 8/9 I
> couldn't get my mp3's to play, but I never had this
> message appear at all.

When you get your sound sorted out, download and install the xmms-mp3 plugin for Fedora from here xmms-mp3-1.2.8-3.p.i386.rpm (www.gurulabs.com)

> Also can I install the Open Office package (1.5 I
> think it is) from the PC World CD over the default
> Open Office installation which comes with Fedora or
> do I have to uninstall it first?

OpenOffice is only up to stable version 1.1.0 and Fedora already has 1.1.0. However when updating OpenOffice you can either install side-by-side the two versions or uninstall the old version first.
Jen C (20)
217032 2004-02-21 04:26:00 IIRC in Fedora you can edit /etc/modules.conf and un-comment out the line related to emu10k1
That should fix the problem :-)

BTW - KDE isnt "smooth" til you're using Keramik ;-)


Chill.
Chilling_Silently (228)
217033 2004-02-21 04:29:00 Ok I have sound when I play audio CD's. When I try the sound test I get the same error message which I posted in my original message above.


OUTPUT FOR /proc/pci is.....

PCI devices found:
Bus 0, device 0, function 0:
Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O Controller (rev 2).
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe0000000 [0xefffffff].
Bus 0, device 1, function 0:
PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P Processor to AGP Controller (rev 2).
Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=8.
Bus 0, device 29, function 0:
USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 2).
IRQ 10.
I/O at 0xef00 [0xef1f].
Bus 0, device 29, function 1:
USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 2).
IRQ 11.
I/O at 0xef20 [0xef3f].
Bus 0, device 29, function 2:
USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 2).
IRQ 5.
I/O at 0xef40 [0xef5f].
Bus 0, device 29, function 3:
USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 2).
IRQ 10.
I/O at 0xef80 [0xef9f].
Bus 0, device 29, function 7:
USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB2 (rev 2).
IRQ 11.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfebffc00 [0xfebfffff].
Bus 0, device 30, function 0:
PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge (rev 194).
Master Capable. No bursts. Min Gnt=2.
Bus 0, device 31, function 0:
ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB LPC Interface Controller (rev 2).
Bus 0, device 31, function 1:
IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 2).
IRQ 5.
I/O at 0xfc00 [0xfc0f].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x40000000 [0x400003ff].
Bus 0, device 31, function 3:
SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB SMBus Controller (rev 2).
IRQ 10.
I/O at 0x400 [0x41f].
Bus 1, device 0, function 0:
VGA compatible controller: PCI device 10de:0322 (nVidia Corporation) (rev 161).
IRQ 10.
Master Capable. Latency=248. Min Gnt=5.Max Lat=1.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfd000000 [0xfdffffff].
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd0000000 [0xd7ffffff].
Bus 2, device 5, function 0:
Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev 18).
IRQ 5.
Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=23.Max Lat=31.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfeafc000 [0xfeafffff].
I/O at 0xd800 [0xd8ff].
Bus 2, device 10, function 0:
Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 16).
IRQ 5.
Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=32.Max Lat=64.
I/O at 0xd400 [0xd4ff].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfeafbc00 [0xfeafbcff].
Bus 2, device 11, function 0:
Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 10).
IRQ 11.
Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=2.Max Lat=20.
I/O at 0xdf80 [0xdf9f].
Bus 2, device 11, function 1:
Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 10).
Master Capable. Latency=64.
I/O at 0xdfe0 [0xdfe7].

OUTPUT FOR /etc/modules.conf is.....

alias eth0 8139too
alias usb-controller usb-uhci
alias usb-controller1 ehci-hcd
alias sound-slot-0 emu10k1
post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
alias char-major-195 nvidia


OUTPUT FOR /proc/modules is.....

emu10k1 69256 1 (autoclean)
ac97_codec 17192 0 (autoclean) [emu10k1]
sound 74292 0 (autoclean) [emu10k1]
parport_pc 19076 1 (autoclean)
lp 9060 0 (autoclean)
parport 37056 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
autofs 13364 0 (autoclean) (unused)
8139too 16808 1
mii 3992 0 [8139too]
ipt_REJECT 4344 1 (autoclean)
ipt_state 1080 6 (autoclean)
ip_conntrack 29256 1 (autoclean) [ipt_state]
iptable_filter 2444 1 (autoclean)
ip_tables 15776 3 [ipt_REJECT ipt_state iptable_filter]
floppy 58012 0 (autoclean)
sg 36492 0 (autoclean)
sr_mod 18168 0 (autoclean)
microcode 4700 0 (autoclean)
ide-scsi 12208 0
scsi_mod 108168 3 [sg sr_mod ide-scsi]
ide-cd 35776 1
cdrom 33728 0 [sr_mod ide-cd]
nls_iso8859-1 3516 1 (autoclean)
nls_cp437 5148 1 (autoclean)
vfat 13036 1 (autoclean)
fat 38872 0 (autoclean) [vfat]
audio 46744 0
soundcore 6468 8 [emu10k1 sound audio]
ov511 82336 0
printer 8960 0
videodev 8288 1 [ov511]
keybdev 2976 0 (unused)
hid 24708 0 (unused)
ehci-hcd 20264 0 (unused)
usb-uhci 26380 0 (unused)
usbcore 79168 1 [audio ov511 printer hid ehci-hcd usb-uhci]
mousedev 5556 1 (autoclean)
input 5888 0 (autoclean) [keybdev hid mousedev]
agpgart 54820 3 (autoclean)
nvidia 2126088 6 (autoclean)
ext3 71300 2
jbd 52084 2 [ext3]

OUTPUT FOR ls -L -l /dev/dsp* is.....

crw------- 1 denverwi root 14, 3 Sep 16 01:40 /dev/dsp
crw------- 1 denverwi root 14, 3 Sep 16 01:40 /dev/dsp1
crw------- 1 denverwi root 14, 3 Sep 16 01:40 /dev/dsp56k


I have no idea what all that means but I hope it helps. I have installed the xmms package but that didn't help either.

What's wrong?

cheers
chiefnz
chiefnz (545)
217034 2004-02-21 04:41:00 Ok Chill I've tried what you've suggested and nothing worked, in fact it now says that Kmix is ill formatted. When I bring up the mixer applet it says select mixer but there's nothing in the drop-down list to choose.

I think I broke it mate :(

cheers
chiefnz
chiefnz (545)
217035 2004-02-21 06:05:00 Try this:
Open an xterm / konsole / gnome-terminal, whatever.
su -
[enter root pwd]
sndconfig

Follow through the prompts, it should pick it up no problems.


Chill.
Chilling_Silently (228)
217036 2004-02-21 07:08:00 Well Chill I tried your advice and nothing worked.

Autodetect picked up the SB Live but when playing the test sound I heard nothing.

I tried manual configuration and the same thing happened

Any ideas

cheers
chiefnz
chiefnz (545)
217037 2004-02-21 11:14:00 And kmix doesnt pick up the card?

Try this:
cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp

Hit Ctrl + C to stop it.

Does anything come out?

It had already detected your SB!Live card because the modules emu10k1 were loaded.
Im thinking Volume problem?


Chill.
Chilling_Silently (228)
217038 2004-02-21 23:01:00 Ok Chill I tried . . . . . cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp

All it said was . . . . . "cat: write error: No such device"

Any ideas as to what's going on .

Is anyone running Linux with a disabled onboard audio chip and a PCI sound card, like a SB Live or Audigy 1/2 .

I still think that may be the problem . Do you think it's worth removing the SB Live and booting Linux like that, or is it not worth the effort .

cheers
chiefnz
chiefnz (545)
217039 2004-02-22 00:42:00 Ah, so it HASNT configured it....!

Ive got OnBoard AC '97 with my SB!Live.

Does sndconfig not pick it up and make any changes????


Chill.
Chilling_Silently (228)
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