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| 217196 | 2004-02-22 00:26:00 | some data is highly compressible, if its decompressed on the fly by the software you are using, then you may have a download speed "reported" that doesn't actually match the number of bits you receive. Be happy that its fast & dont think about it too much. |
flying_green_leprachaun (1767) | ||
| 217197 | 2004-02-22 01:56:00 | The connection 115 K will be the speed from the Modem to the computer and has nothing to do with the speed of the phone line. | Elephant (599) | ||
| 217198 | 2004-02-22 02:16:00 | > There is no deal, it's not possible. > Your machine might put it up at 13k/s but it is just > not possible for a 56k modem to pull down at that > speed. And that is where you are wrong. You can download a 800GB file in about 5 minutes over a 56K modem if the file is made up of all the same character. As long as compression is on at both ends of the modem it will compress it down to nothing, send the small nothing over the modem and re expand at the other end. This is how a 56K modem can go faster than 56K. Compression. Works well on text files but not very well on files already compressed. |
Big John (551) | ||
| 217199 | 2004-02-22 02:21:00 | In the 70s when bulletin boards were popular in the US, fast modems were 2400 baud . That was a standard . A modem made to conform to that standrad could talk to any other mopdem made to that standard . One modem manufacturer produced a faster modem, and gave some to bulletin board operators so they could speed up their networking . They worked only in pairs . A 2400 baud modem couldn't talk to the fast one (HSP the name? It's all a long time agao . . . ) . That was a non-standard standard . Your V90 modem works because it is made to conform to the V90 standard . The standard says it can download at 56kbps from a fully digital sender in the exchange . It can send at 33 . 6kbs up to the exchange by converting the digital form to a complex analogue signal which it can transmit to a matching analogue reciever in the exchange . It can talk at 33 . 6 to another V90 modem . But it works only because it conforms . Standards make things work . There is no magic which enables you to get packets faster than the standard rate . In fact, since the telephone line is rated for 2400 baud, V90/92 is magical in itself . I suspect that incidents of "magic" are actually cases where there is some "preloading" going on . Some software can be set up to fetch all the links in an HTML page while you are reading the page, on the basis that you might want to use the links . If one of the links starts an ftp download, you can have the file in a temporary file before you decide that you want it . If you then click on it, you will get a very high "download rate" . :O It's already here . Some proxies prefetch lots of stuff . I've seen it make FTP sites unusable, because the propxy would try to prefect whole directories when I just wanted to look at the directory listing . 90GB directories take a long time to download . :_| |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 217200 | 2004-02-22 03:50:00 | Is it not possible for it to Spike? I have analogueX netstat Live and it tells me the speed of incoming and outgoing connections. often just on webpages it is 11kb/s and when downloading it often jumps from 4.9 kb/sec to 5.9kb/sec i even used this once while i was downloading from a P2P network and it said constant 13 kb/sec Also when sending files over MSN i open netstat live and it shows me it spikes from 3.6 to 4 etc Explain that |
MrBeef (342) | ||
| 217201 | 2004-02-22 04:46:00 | I am following this discusion with interest as I too have a story like yours MrBeef. I will wait before telling it but suffice to say I spent about three weeks and six modems trying to duplicate a phenonmenon I saw on a least three separate occasions with extra fast d/loads over a period of several hours on three different days. The speeds were not the ones reported mousing over the net symbol in the toolbar but on the actual reported speed on a p2p transfer, using a well known program. I now have this very modem in my possession but cannot duplicate the speeds. My normal speeds vary around 5kb/sec but has been 6.2kb/sec for prolonged periods on occasions. Try d/l this useful program to see a fast d/l on dialup. Download link is at the bottom of the page. www.sysinternals.com Regards Rob. |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 217202 | 2004-02-22 04:52:00 | > And that is where you are wrong. You can download a > 800GB file in about 5 minutes over a 56K modem if the > file is made up of all the same character. As long as > compression is on at both ends of the modem it will > compress it down to nothing, send the small nothing > over the modem and re expand at the other end. > This is how a 56K modem can go faster than 56K. > Compression. Works well on text files but not very > well on files already compressed. Well I'm sure you must feel better with that technicality out of the way. Your statement is ridiculous and you know it - it's certainly not realistic relative to normal internet use, and I would also highly doubt it's validity. I'd be interested to see you compress an 800GB file to that relative size. |
whiskeytangofoxtrot (438) | ||
| 217203 | 2004-02-22 04:53:00 | > I know a person that has 56k and he was having problems so the ISP told him to put a string into the configuration to make the modem louder or something and he connects at 112k. > I've even transferred files to him over msn and it goes at 13k/sec easy. This si on 56k! So whats the deal there? To add to that he received the file at the same time as I had finished sending it. Thats a given. Now I was on jetstart and I transferred a 2mb file to him in well under 2mins by our calculation - not msn's. Msn reported the speed at 13k/sec. Now if he was on normal 56k that would take 6mins at least. Msn uses a direct transfer between sender and receiver, no server inbetween. |
PoWa (203) | ||
| 217204 | 2004-02-22 05:39:00 | > Well I'm sure you must feel better with that > technicality out of the way. > > Your statement is ridiculous and you know it - it's > certainly not realistic relative to normal internet > use, and I would also highly doubt it's validity. Try it and see. We did and it works. Anyway I was pointing out that a 56K modem can go faster than everyone here says it can simply by the fact that it does compression when configured correctly and this is the reason why they are seeing these speeds over and above what you would normally consider a 56K connection would do. It seems you need o make personal attacks when you are shown to be wrong. Get used to it as life will do that many times. Just say yep I did not take that into account and build a bridge and get over it. |
Big John (551) | ||
| 217205 | 2004-02-22 07:17:00 | hi there i downloaded that link zqwerty pretty fast heres a pic of analogx sal.neoburn.net |
MrBeef (342) | ||
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