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217878 2004-02-24 21:18:00 IF a cellphone is vodafone can it be changed to telecom?

The trademe said that the phone is vodafone phone but if u were to buy a cellphone overseas or any cellphone there's no such thing as a vodafone phone phone correct? U can choose what type of network you want to use.
Does anyone know how telecom puts u into the network?
They don't use a sim card so what exactly happens?
yingxuan (3330)
217879 2004-02-24 21:29:00 > IF a cellphone is vodafone can it be changed to
> telecom?

No, absolutely not.

> The trademe said that the phone is vodafone phone but
> if u were to buy a cellphone overseas or any
> cellphone there's no such thing as a vodafone phone
> phone correct? U can choose what type of network you
> want to use.
> Does anyone know how telecom puts u into the
> network?
> They don't use a sim card so what exactly happens?

If the phone is on one of those pre-paid plans it comes with its own number which remains with it for the life of the phone. After purchase (from new) it is activated by the customer by phoning Telecom and requesting they activate it. If you buy a Telecom phone on Trademe you inherit the phone's number from the seller.
Fire-and-Ice (3910)
217880 2004-02-24 21:45:00 the guy at trademe bought the phone overseas and its never been used.Its new.It says vodafone network but since its never been used can it be change to telecom. yingxuan (3330)
217881 2004-02-24 21:50:00 > It says vodafone network but since its never been used can it be change to telecom.

I doubt it. Why don't you phone Telecom and ask them? ;-)
Fire-and-Ice (3910)
217882 2004-02-24 21:52:00 > the guy at trademe bought the phone overseas and its
> never been used.Its new.It says vodafone network but
> since its never been used can it be change to
> telecom.

Nope, now way, no how.
If it has a sim card then it can only connected to a GSM network which means here in NZ as only Vodafone.
Telecoms 027 phones use CDMA and even though this system is used overseas you can not buy a CDMA phone overseas and make it work here.
sam m (517)
217883 2004-02-24 22:05:00 No, since both Vodafone & Telecom uses completely different Network.

You're right about there's no such thing as Vodafone phone phone, but there's a thing called GSM phone (vodafone uses GSM network) and Telecom uses CDMA network (correct me if I'm wrong about Telecom).

To make things more complicated, GSM comes under GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800 and GSM1900 as well, but GSM900 is the most common one.

Most GSM phones on the market will accept GSM900 and GSM1800, some even accepts all four.

I'm not sure how Telecom mobile works as I've only used GSM network and the Roaming and GPRS features are useful to me.
SKT174 (1319)
217884 2004-02-24 22:35:00 the phone i gsm 1800 and gsm 900 as well.What gsm is telecom? yingxuan (3330)
217885 2004-02-24 22:58:00 > the phone i gsm 1800 and gsm 900 as well.What gsm is
> telecom?

Telecom is NOT gsm.

Basically the phones that you have been bidding on at Trademe can NOT be changed to or connected to Telecom, end of story.
sam m (517)
217886 2004-02-25 01:40:00 if a phone is blocked if u were to insert the sim card in.IT doesn't mean that the phone is stolen correct?

There's an auction at trademe selling for around 45 dollars and it said that the phone is block.No matter which sim card u put in it'll say sim registration failed.IT just means that the phone is..??
Not stolen is it?
yingxuan (3330)
217887 2004-02-25 02:22:00 I think you are a little confused as to what GSM is. GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications) is the "format" (for want of a better word) the network is based on. In this "format" there are different bandwidths that are used ie 900MHz, 1800Mhz etc hence the GSM900 and GSM1800 etc. There are many GSM carriers (or networks) around the world like Vodafone, Orange, Optus and many countries have more than one carrier to choose from. In New Zealand the only GSM network is run by Vodafone, so if you buy a GSM phone you can only use Vodafone.
Telecom operates a CDMA (Code Division Muliple Access) "format". Many countries also have CDMA networks and CDMA phones work overseas fine. This format is incompatible with the GSM "format". So you cannot use a GSM phone on the Telecom network and you cannot use a CDMA phone on the Vodafone network. It does not matter if the phone has been used previously or not. Really you have to decide whether you want to use Vodafone or Telecom and then buy the correct phone for the network.

You may be able to unlock the phone using the PIN Unlock Key code but you'd be best to ring Vodafone and talk to them about this. I would say it would be unusual for the legitimate owner of the phone to lock it by entering the incorrect PIN. It sounds suss to me.
Sb0h (3744)
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