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Thread ID: 130399	2013-04-09 00:18:00	Telecom spin	Digby (677)	PC World Chat

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1336013	2013-04-09 00:18:00	Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei has been selected by Telecom to build the 4G-capable mobile sites. Alcatel Lucent, which built Telecom's XT network - which was dogged with technical problems when it launched in 2009 - had also been working with Telecom on its 4G trial. "Huawei's selection was based on two main factors. The first is that they have extensive experience, having built 73 LTE networks in 42 countries. The second is that they are truly pushing the boundaries of LTE technology," said Telecom's chief technology officer David Havercroft. The third factor and probably the most important is that Huawei's prices were probably miles cheaper than anyone elses.	Digby (677)
1336014	2013-04-09 00:28:00	The third factor and probably the most important is that Huawei's prices were probably miles cheaper than anyone elses. Nailed in one! :D	Chilling_Silence (9)
1336015	2013-04-09 00:29:00	The third factor and probably the most important is that Huawei's prices were probably miles cheaper than anyone elses. +1 Pretty much gauranteed this is the real reason, the rest is PR to justify it. It wouldn't surprise me if Huawei's 4G equipment started life as a clone of somebody elses either. One thing though, Alcatel didn't build any networks and Huawei probably won't either. More likely they will supply the equipment and possibly help with initial network design and telecom will contract out the installation to their current contractors like they did previously. Alcatel probably do configure and maintain the XT network but they do it remotely and I don't consider that building anything. The actual work is done by other companies.	dugimodo (138)
1336016	2013-04-09 00:46:00	The third factor and probably the most important is that Huawei's prices were probably miles cheaper than anyone elses. :confused: What is this "Probably"? Surely they either were or they weren’t.	B.M. (505)
1336017	2013-04-09 00:52:00	Yes and I seem to remember that Telecom were told by their network designer to buy 3 of some major piece of kit and they only bought 2 which is what caused all the initial problems with their 3G network that crashed a lot a few years ago. Yes I bet that Huawei 4G was copied. We will know that they have made it when they come out with a 5G system and Cisco and Alcatel copy them!	Digby (677)
1336018	2013-04-09 01:09:00	It all boils down to $ & cents. Telecoms wants to save all the money so that they can pay huge amount to their CEO and top management executives. For sure, we consumers and Telecom's workers won't have a share in it.	bk T (215)
1336019	2013-04-09 01:38:00	So that's what JK was really doing in China.. Didn't Huawei build the 2Degrees network as well..	paulw (1826)
1336020	2013-04-09 01:38:00	The thing with telecom is they don't need to match coverage with the new 4G, their 3G network is decent (speed wise) and covers pretty much everywhere (bar a few places where VF gets it, or there is no cell whatsoever). Telecom 3G is relatively flawless over all anyway. The main bonus of 4G is the added bandwidth and the amount of devices able to be services by a single cell, in NZ the device concentration isn't too bad and 3G handles OK. The data bandwidth isn't a huge factor, esp since their data caps are priced out of ever wanting to download/stream anything over 50mb in one go :p Vodafones 4G covers city areas but once you're out of coverage you drop back to their 3/2G network which is utter shite. They should have spent the money enlarging the coverage of their 3G OR tried to get better coverage + 4G in one go. At least with Telecom the city areas will benefit from the added capacity/speeds and everywhere else will still have pretty damn decent 3G.	The Error Guy (14052)
1336021	2013-04-09 01:42:00	I used to work for Telecom (now work for their direct competitor), and Alcatel very definitely built and maintained the XT network. They were pretty much another division of the company (i.e. integrated vendor). I also think you guys are underestimating the largest telco manufacturer in the world.	pablo d (15490)
1336022	2013-04-09 05:27:00	I also think you guys are underestimating the largest telco manufacturer in the world. So who is that ? I thought it used to be Cisco And yes Huawei supplied the gear for Two Degrees network	Digby (677)
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