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219680 2004-03-03 03:09:00 Villagers dont nag you when you spend all the grocery money on a messy weekend and have to spend a week eating cornflakes and potatoes.... metla (154)
219681 2004-03-03 03:31:00 Not only give thought to hardware compatibility, but also existing program compatibility.
Had a client using a program (for his business) that would not run on XP, even in compatibility mode. He gave up XP and went back to 98 because of it. Suggested dualboot, but too complicated for him, just wanted one desktop to do everything.
Pheonix (280)
219682 2004-03-03 05:43:00 >At the moment he should be able to pick up an OEM copy
> quite cheaply eg $150


Whereabouts would you get XP for this price? I have been looking but can't see it for less than $280 OEM for XP pro

Thanks
Nigel Thomson (629)
219683 2004-03-03 08:53:00 Thats about right for XP home,add another $110 for XP Pro metla (154)
219684 2004-03-03 09:57:00 > If your friend is considering updating to Win XP it
> might pay for him to check that his current hardware
> will run on it. Not sure about printers but scanners
> in particular are not all compatible.

I agree 100%. Assuming you start with WinME as the O/S you have currently and assuming you have a WinXP Home or Pro O/S disk and assuming you have an Internet connection currently then I would do this:-

1. Shove the WinXP disk in the CD drive. Before you even think about this then do a backup of your Docs, Downloads, Favourites, Emails, Settings, etc etc... If you have more than one partition on the hard drive then copy the real important stuff to the other partition.

2. Don't install WinXP at this point!!!!

3. Test the current hardware and software for WinXP compatability.
The WinXP disk will allow you to do this.

4. While you still have a working system do NOT install WinXP yet.

5. You will have to use different drivers for Hardware but quite a few will be on the WinXP O/S disk anyway.

6. You just may have to change software as well. For example let's assume you have a CD Writer and this is used by running CD Creator 5. If this is the case then you will need to either use WinXP to copy to CD Writer by doing the drag and drop or change to Nero or do what you want. If you have a Mustek scanner then some of these are not supported any more and you won't get a driver full stop.

7. Post more info here as you find out these things. Motherboard make and model... Important I think.... Graphic card... PCI, AGP or on board?



>
> If he does upgrade ensure that a fresh install is
> done for best results, ie format and install.
8. Agreed once more. Use the above info to have a think. Use the currently working system to get drivers and don't forget to backup!!!!!!

>
> Either way get more RAM. :-)
9. Test the current RAM using Memtest. It just may be the problem anyway. But SusanB is correct. I would look at using 512 Meg ram if I wanted to run WinXP. Currently I use 1 Gig ram but that doesn't mean that your friend has to. In my case I am into Photo editing and my system works for me.

And YES.... I assumed a few things which I should not have done maybe.
Just trying to go on the info I have. I can't see your Friend's screen from here

Hope this helps.
Elephant (599)
219685 2004-03-03 10:26:00 And possibly dig a ditch even. With a shovel even.

How many villagers do you employ then?

Wanganui was never a Village when I left living there and it still isn't when I came back.

Keep going with an excavator and I will possiby come back with nothing.

Where is your Gold in Wanganui? Where is your timber in Wanganui?

Some people, ( including me earlier ) can't even afford a computer.

I get to do upgrades and make other computers on left over parts and hand these on for free to the likes of Womens Refuge, Children whom are interested in trying computer hardware learning, some Family members etc.

It's just possible you may call me a pedophile with this post but frankly I have got to the stage where I don't care what you think!
Elephant (599)
219686 2004-03-03 10:27:00 Thanks everyone for the great and valid advice, but we are getting a bit ahead of ourselves - all I'm doing at the moment is trying to persuade him that if he is going to spend money, it is better spent on an OS upgrade to WinXP then RAM with any leftover money, rather than a processor and RAM upgrade and leave the OS as WinME. Of course once he has also u/g his other hardware and software, he may not have any money left...

>I would look at using 512 Meg ram
That will certainly be better than the 256meg he already has, and at about $100 for 256mb the u/g has to be a no-brainer, but as I said in an earlier post, I have a 450mhz beast with 384mb running XP Home quite satisfactorily.

Tony B
tbacon_nz (865)
219687 2004-03-03 10:36:00 > And possibly dig a ditch even . With a shovel even .
>
> How many villagers do you employ then?
>
> Wanganui was never a Village when I left living there
> and it still isn't when I came back .
>
> Keep going with an excavator and I will possiby come
> back with nothing .
>
> Where is your Gold in Wanganui? Where is your timber
> in Wanganui?
>
> Some people, ( including me earlier ) can't even
> afford a computer .
>
> I get to do upgrades and make other computers on left
> over parts and hand these on for free to the likes of
> Womens Refuge, Children whom are interested in trying
> computer hardware learning, some Family members etc .
>
> It's just possible you may call me a pedophile with
> this post but frankly I have got to the stage where I
> don't care what you think!
>
>



heh?

I presume that rambling nonsence is some sort of a dig at me?
Care to explain wth your on about?

are you taking a turn and trying to start something?

Your one weird and wired chicken .
metla (154)
219688 2004-03-03 10:46:00 > And possibly dig a ditch even . With a shovel even .
>
> How many villagers do you employ then?
>
> Wanganui was never a Village when I left living there
> and it still isn't when I came back .
>
> Keep going with an excavator and I will possiby come
> back with nothing .
>
> Where is your Gold in Wanganui? Where is your timber
> in Wanganui?
>
> Some people, ( including me earlier ) can't even
> afford a computer .
>
> I get to do upgrades and make other computers on left
> over parts and hand these on for free to the likes of
> Womens Refuge, Children whom are interested in trying
> computer hardware learning, some Family members etc .
>
> It's just possible you may call me a pedophile with
> this post but frankly I have got to the stage where I
> don't care what you think!
>
>


hmmm . . . . lets see if i can make sence of this rubbish .

The villagers and resources/gold/timber was a reference to real-time-stratergy games,such as age of empres and its multitude of copycat games .

I neither employ villagers or anyone else,even if i did it would be none of your business nor do i see how you would take offence,nor do i care .

as for demiloshing parts of wanganui? . . . its called redevolopment,something wangas has been deprived of for far too long . For whats its worth in the 15 years i done demolition 90 percent of it was done in other parts of the country .

Some people cant even afford a computer?

so?

Its not a necisisty,it isnt food or shelter,i was not able to afford one myself for the many years i spent breaking my body thru hard work to the point i am at now where im no longer physlicly able to do my prior job . Not bad for 30 . As well as that all reduntent parts and computers that come my way get passed along to others who can't afford them any other way . That however is none of your business .

As to your last paragraph,plain an simple,your soft in the head .
metla (154)
219689 2004-03-03 11:27:00 Sounds like its a little past someones bed-time.... Take a chill pill and lay off the abuse to Metla dude.

Was that all _really_ neccesary?

On a more constructive note, I think that roofus hit the nail on the head with his post, and totally agree :-)


Chill.
Chilling_Silently (228)
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