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220156	2004-03-05 00:27:00	For those that read PCW, in the current issue, Scott Bartley has a glowing account of the Xandros Linux OS. It sounded good so bought it from Aka Technology with excellent overnight delivery. I installed it last night, more or less just letting it do its thing, and as Scott said it is a breeze, with internet up and running in no time. A problem to solve is I'm using Netbeui to network and file share 5 computers, as I had problems in the past trying to get TCP/IP to file share between different flavours of Windows, 95/98/XP, so Xandros cant see the other computers at the moment. In retrospect, I'll probably do another install and this time make some extra partitions that would be useful. I'd say for someone wanting to seriously try Linux for the first time (thats me, apart from playing with Mandrake a bit) then this could be the way to go.	Terry Porritt (14)
220157	2004-03-05 01:57:00	You'll want too look into Samba then. Im not sure about how well it works over NetBUI, but getting file-sharing over TCP/IP is easy stuff ;-) Good to hear about Xandros. Ive heard nothing but praises of it :-) Chill.	Chilling_Silently (228)
220158	2004-03-05 04:07:00	Glad you think file sharing over TCP/IP is easy stuff Chill :), I cant get my win95 + 2xwin98se +XP to network over TCP/IP, only over Netbeui, I have to get the TCP/IP working in the windows network for Xandros to see it. However I think there may be a Linux version of Netbeui which will merit searching for. The install was on a clean hard drive plugged into my XP Athlon via a caddy instead of the XP drive. It's early days yet, and a lot to learn.	Terry Porritt (14)
220159	2004-03-05 04:48:00	MS came very late to TCP/IP (they were going to make the Internet obsolete by their own proprietary "much better" {because theirs} networks). They "improved" the BSD code, so it tooka while before they got it to work --- mostly. :D But TCP/IP can be made to work in Windows --- I've even done it with W3.11 . You need SAMBA for Windows-like file sharing ... there seems to be some work on a NETBEUI patch for SAMBA (at version 5 according to a quick look: "netbeui samba" to google). It seems to need to be applied to the sources, and then a compilation of SAMBA with an option set to include the capability. Try adding the TCP/IP capability to each of the W machines in turn, rather than replacing the NETBEUI. That way Windows can talk to Windows using NETBVEUI, and TCP/IP to the real OS. :D	Graham L (2)
220160	2004-03-05 06:10:00	I'd be really interested to know how you get on Terry. I've been thinking of swapping my business over to Linux but haven't had enough confidence with the other distro's I've played with to take the plunge (or the nouse, maybe someone would like a wee holliday in Lower Hutt ;) ). Cheers Murray P	Murray P (44)
220161	2004-03-05 07:04:00	Well, I tried Grahams suggestion of enabling TCP/IP on one win98 computer . As it was already there, all I had to do was in Bindings, to bind TCP/IP to Client For Microsoft Networks and to File and Printer Sharing . Previously Client and File and Printer Sharing were only bound to Netbeui, and I also had Netbios not enabled over TCP/IP, so in effect my windows network had just Netbeui for sharing, and TCP/IP for internet, and these were independent of each other . After the bindings modification Xandros could now see the win98 computer, but win98 couldnt see Xandros computer :) Also in Xandros I could see the win98 C: folder on the other machine, but I couldnt open it, there was an error message that the path to the folder couldnt be found . So it is/was getting there, Then because I didnt really know what i was doing, it all turned to custard as I fiddled around, dont ask me what i did, but somehow the windows network vanished, and I could no longer see the win computer . Wish there was a restore point or back up of somesort, maybe have to get another hard drive to back up to . Somehow I dont think my version of Ghost from System works 2002 will recognise the ReiserFS file system that Xandros installs by default .	Terry Porritt (14)
220162	2004-03-05 07:38:00	> Then because I didnt really know what i was doing, it > all turned to custard as I fiddled around, dont ask > me what i did, It is interesting to see that wise old blokes like Terry ( he of the cluttered playroom !!) get into snarlups like the rest of us. Watch this space ....	TonyF (246)
220163	2004-03-05 08:03:00	Hi Terry, If you want to back-up an entire hard drive (and I do mean "entire" :D ) you can open a terminal window and dd the drive. This does a bit copy of the complete hard drive. From there it is then possible to b or gzip the file to make it smaller. :) Not much help now though and it is probably better to learn how to walk before trying to run :) As a matter of interest, had you enabled a share on the Win98 machine? Could possibly be why Xandros couldn't read the contents.	Gorela (901)
220164	2004-03-05 08:13:00	Hi Murray, There is a Linux Users Group that meets in Wellington monthly and a new group has started for us folks in the Valley. Check out the details at WLUG (http://wlug.naos.co.nz) for the next meetings. Also there is a local linux "worker" who is always interested in new converts. He generally attends both LUG meetings and is the organiser of the Valley group. HTH	Gorela (901)
220165	2004-03-05 09:14:00	Thanks Gorela, Yes I had enabled sharing . A bit further forward now after a reinstall . Incidently the longest part of the install is going to Xandros Networks after the basic install to get the updates and install a new kernel version :) It really does install fast though . Im getting there, occasionally it seems to work when I click on the "windows network", other times there is a message about not finding the path to the shared drive on the win computer . It is probably finger trouble due to unfamiliarity . Tony: I dont always say when I get into the clag :)	Terry Porritt (14)
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