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Thread ID: 43373	2004-03-12 21:24:00	First try at Xandros v2	John H (8)	Press F1

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222065	2004-03-16 02:28:00	Thanks Graham. I gathered that laptops posed some difficulties, not the least of which is in APM which Xandro doesn't seem to have solved either. :-( I have found a website (thinks, "where was it again????") that is working on the only bit of my lappie that refuses to work in Linux - WIFI. My laptop is certified Centrino, and Intel has not produced a Linux driver for the wireless device that is included in this laptop. A group of enthusiasts is developing one, but three things put me off trying to install it: 1. the magic word "beta" 2. the frequent use of the word "bugs" as in "please report them to contribute to this project"! 3. the other magic word "firmware update". Now something makes me deeply suspicious about installing a firmware update when the thing works fine on Windows... When I have more time I need to go back and check out the site a bit more carefully, but at the moment I am a little leery. Those two things aside, everything else works as far as hardware goes. The only problem is with the bug in the Regional Settings and First Run Wizard since updating. Haven't had time to check the Xandros website to see if this is a known bug. Cheers John	John H (8)
222066	2004-03-16 04:31:00	i might try teh demo. but can i make a boot floppy and install it from C: drive? i plan to resize D: drive and put it there, but will resizing keep all my data? i dont have a cd writer, and C: drive has not enough room to back it all up :p	Megaman (344)
222067	2004-03-16 05:52:00	> but three things put me off trying to > install it: > 1. the magic word "beta" What's wrong with that? It just means its not a Final Product... Not that its un-stable or un-usable, but that its not "complete". Take Ark Linux for example, The only thing that's ever crashed is a Media Player. We simply use another. Ark Linux is still counted as Alpha though (pre-beta) but its stable as anything! > 2. the frequent use of the word "bugs" as in "please > report them to contribute to this project"! That goes for pretty much anything Open-source. Developers are always keen to hear back with comments, feedback, ideas/improvements, or even bugs. > 3. the other magic word "firmware update". No comment ;-) > Now something makes me deeply suspicious about > installing a firmware update when the thing works > fine on Windows... When I have more time I need to go > back and check out the site a bit more carefully, but > at the moment I am a little leery. Understandably so too..... Just my two cents worth ;-) Chill.	Chilling_Silence (9)
222068	2004-03-16 05:58:00	Hi John >The macron is a bit of an issue because I use it lots, and the Microsoft Maori keyboard driver does a really good job of this. I doubt that the Linux community has got around to that yet! I have been looking into your macron keyboard issue and found this Keyboard support (homepages.ihug.co.nz): What follows works for me, but I've done it without reading the manuals. That means it's almost certainly brain-damaged and in need of work. Anyway. For me, this allows vowels with macrons to be typed easily—by hitting the right-hand ALT key plus the relevant vowel key. I.e: Rt ALT a --> a with macron ā Rt ALT A --> A with macron Ā Rt ALT e --> e with macron ē Rt ALT E --> E with macron Ē etc... You may wish to try out his script. I wouldn't worry about looking for Maori languages in your KDE Regional Settings as not many distro's will include this. Ark Linux does have the Maori language support available which is where Chill might of seen it. Out of interest the KDE Maori support component is called kde-i18n-mi, but not many distro's have rpm's or debian packages which you could use on Xandros.	Jen C (20)
222069	2004-03-16 22:29:00	Hi Jen Thanks very much for that research you have done - I will investigate that option. I had thought that using Xandros would mean that I would not have to get into the bowels of Linux, but it looks like no such luck. I just had a reply from Xandros customer support (very prompt too) about the problem I have with Regional Settings crashing. They recognised the problem and have now put instructions on their website. The instructions they included in the email are: __________________ Hello, A procedure has been found to resolve the issue. The steps are as follows: 1. Copy the file /etc/skel/.bash_profile to .bash_profile in the user's home directory, or if the user has modified the .bash_profile file, make sure the last few lines of .bash_profile looks like this: # --- kcmrscp::start [Do not edit these lines.] --- export LANG=en_US export LANGUAGE=C export LC_ALL=en_US # --- kcmrscp::end --- 2. Remove the directory .rscp in the user's home directory, and all files under it. 3. Remove the file .kde/share/config/rscp-charsets, relative to the users home directory, if it exists. 4. Log out and back in again, and then try launching the Regional Settings control panel. __________________ Now doesn't that warm the cockles of your heart you Linux lovers, and suggest that the appearance of Windoze is just skin deep in Xandros OS? ;-)	John H (8)
222070	2004-03-16 22:53:00	Now doesn't that warm the cockles of your heart you Linux lovers, and suggest that the appearance of Windoze is just skin deep in Xandros OS? Oh boy, I can't wait :D Nice one John . Cheers Murray P	Murray P (44)
222071	2004-03-16 23:49:00	Well, that went well! All fixed now . I must have learned something by playing with the other distros after all . The trick (and I hate to reinforce the idea that Xandros is Windoze like . . . ) is that you have to turn on View Hidden Files in Xandros File Manager to see the system directories and other files . . . Duh! It looked really unfamiliar for a while and I could not find the required directories . Still, all solved now . And there isn't any macron facility in the NZ character set . :-( I would like to show you the new desktop but it saves as 600kb so it is too large . Is there any way of reducing the size? It has penguins, but not as we know them, Dr Spock . And Murray, yes, from my perspective anyway, the only disadvantage is no macrons, and I may be able to solve that if I can get my head around it thanks to Jen C :-) John	John H (8)
222072	2004-03-17 00:06:00	Glad to hear you got that sorted :) I read those instructions, and for a newbie-orientated distro, thought they were rather brief. I could see that they were hidden files and directories (the dot in front of the file/directory) but they didn't include how to make these visible. >I would like to show you the new desktop but it saves as 600kb so it is too large. Is there any way of reducing the size? Did you try ksnapshot? Save with a jpg extension (just write this in yourself after the filename). If it is still too big, open up the GIMP and open up your screenshot. Right-click over the image and select Image > Scale Image. Select a smaller screen size resolution, then OK. Right-click again over the image and select File > Save As. Click OK at the next series of prompts and then see if this has made a difference. >It has penguins, but not as we know them, Dr Spock. Sounds interesting :D	Jen C (20)
222073	2004-03-17 00:55:00	Thanks Jen - as clear as ever. Xandros has an app called Screen Capture, which I used to save the image. I did have a look at Gimp, but got lost :-( Thanks for putting me right. Here is the desktop - a bit cutesy pie I know, but it had penguins: sal.neoburn.net Thanks for the hint about the . in front of the file names. I noticed it but did not know its significance. However, I worked out how to get there, so that is a tiny triumph today! Thanks again John	John H (8)
222074	2004-03-17 02:06:00	Nice desktop! Very psychedelic tux's :D Have you checked out the wallpaper's here (www.kde-look.org/)? Tux galore!	Jen C (20)
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