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222105 2004-03-18 05:28:00 Thanks Terry, it looks as thought Office XP installed all that garbage then, and the uninstall process does not remove it. Darn.

Chill, I found a Debian package for k3b after all, and installed it using Xandros Networks. Nothing shows up in any of the Launch menus, but I found that if you right click on an object like Home, you get an option to set up a CD project. That launches K3b, but unfortunately there is an error message that reads:
Unable to find cdrecord executable
K3b uses cdrecord to actually write CD's.
Solution: Install the cdrtools package which contains cdrecord.

There is a popup Start K3bSetup 2, which when opened just sets permissions for the Device you are going to burn from, and cdrdao and cdrecord. At present the permissions are set to root .root and I cannot see any way to change them, assuming that this is what I need to do. Under settings, you can set Use burning group (which is unchecked at present, but greyed out is "burning").

Can you interpret any of this? cdrecord does seem to be installed given that it is showing up in the Found programs list. Is this a problem of permissions, and if so, what do you recommend?

Thanks, as ever. John 		John H (8)
222106 2004-03-18 05:45:00 > Chill, I found a Debian package for k3b after all,
> and installed it using Xandros Networks. Nothing
> shows up in any of the Launch menus, but I found that
> if you right click on an object like Home, you get an
> option to set up a CD project.
You may need to logout and log back in for the settings to take effect. Otherwise, there's an app, I cant quite remember the name of it, but its something like "kappfinder" and it'll hunt down apps to add to the KDE Menu :-)

> That launches K3b, but
> unfortunately there is an error message that reads:
> Unable to find cdrecord executable
That's because cdrecord isnt installed, or has not been installed in one of the usual places. Most likely the first.

> K3b uses cdrecord to actually write CD's.
> Solution: Install the cdrtools package which contains
> cdrecord.
Yup, that's right :-)

> There is a popup Start K3bSetup 2, which when opened
> just sets permissions for the Device you are going to
> burn from, and cdrdao and cdrecord. At present the
> permissions are set to root .root and I cannot see
> any way to change them, assuming that this is what I
> need to do. Under settings, you can set Use burning
> group (which is unchecked at present, but greyed out
> is "burning").
Yes, basically cd burning is locked to your root user ATM, and you need to configure it to allow your normal user to burn with cdrecord and cdrdao (or growisofs if you plan on burning DVD's).
If you run the K3bsetup2 utility (which can also be found within kcontrol), you should be able to configure it easily enough :-)
IIRC, it changes the permissions on cdrecord, as well as /dev/cdrom (or whatever relevant entries).

> Can you interpret any of this? cdrecord does seem to
> be installed given that it is showing up in the Found
> programs list. Is this a problem of permissions, and
> if so, what do you recommend?
Run k3bsetup2. That'll set you right :-)

Lemme know how you get on with burning, Im sure you'll like it.

Cheers


Chill. 		Chilling_Silence (9)
222107 2004-03-18 06:00:00 Thanks Chill. cdrecord is definitely installed, because I tried logging out and logging back in as root. I successfully burned a CD as Administrator (root), so all the bits are there and installed.

I am sure it is a permissions problem, but when you try to change them in K3bsetup2 utility nothing happens i.e. you click on permissions and nothing moves! The utility says it is for changing permissions, and when you open it you have to provide the root password, but nothing happens.

I will have another look at it after dinner... I do want to get it working because it is much better than the Xandros CD Writer...

John 		John H (8)
222108 2004-03-18 06:09:00 > Thanks Chill. cdrecord is definitely installed,
> because I tried logging out and logging back in as
> root. I successfully burned a CD as Administrator
> (root), so all the bits are there and installed.
That's good to hear :-)
Personally, I dont login as root thought. Rather you should:
su -
[enter root password]
Then run the app from the command line. It saves on accidental screwing around with things!

> I am sure it is a permissions problem, but when you
> try to change them in K3bsetup2 utility nothing
> happens i.e. you click on permissions and nothing
> moves! The utility says it is for changing
> permissions, and when you open it you have to provide
> the root password, but nothing happens.
That seems odd. Going from memory you have to choose what users you want to be part of the group 'cdrecording', then it makes the changes.

> I will have another look at it after dinner... I do
> want to get it working because it is much better than
> the Xandros CD Writer...
Oh definately! I wouldnt be without it! Goodbye Nero, X-CDRoast, cdbakeoven, and the inbuilt KDE/Konqueror burning, this does everything I'll ever need :D

Im yet to play around with the EmoviX plugin yet, but it looks cool!


Chill. 		Chilling_Silence (9)
222109 2004-03-18 06:40:00 >
> Terry >
> Download the source for Mplayer. Its dead easy to
> compile:
> ./configure
> make
> make install
>
> Then you'll also get mencoder which you dont get with
> the rpm's.
> As for your camera's, try running the following
> commands:
> mkdir /camera
> mount /dev/sda1 /camera
>
> Then have a look in /camera for your picture files
> :-)
> Otherwise, check out Digikam
>
>
> Chill.
Chill:
Well, according to Delphi123 it isnt as easy as that to install mplayer, Here (forums.xandros.com) is what he says.

Digikam can be installed from Xandros Networks, but it doesnt list the Logitech, and a web search says that there is no driver for it.

I will however press on. 		Terry Porritt (14)
222110 2004-03-18 07:01:00 > Chill:
> Well, according to Delphi123 it isnt as easy as that
> to install mplayer,
> He
> e (forums.xandros.com) is what he says.
Oh come on! That review was from December 2001!!!
Here's how I compiled it last on my Redhat 9 box:
I ran redhat-config-packages and installed some basic devel tools, mostly for Gnome as its gtk-based iirc.
Downloaded the tar.bz2 file to /home/chill
opened a gnome-terminal and ran:
tar xvjf MPlayer****.tar.bz2
cd MPlayer****
./configure --prefix=/usr
make
make install
cd ..
rm -rf MPlayer*

Where *** = the MPlayer version.

If its much more hassle than that, I'd be shocked...

> Digikam can be installed from Xandros Networks, but
> it doesnt list the Logitech, and a web search says
> that there is no driver for it.
There's no driver for my Creative PC-Cam 650, but I can still mount it to /camera and copy the image files from it. It basically treats it as a USB Thumbdrive :-)


Chill. 		Chilling_Silence (9)
222111 2004-03-18 08:54:00 Well, Chill, when I tried to configure I got messages that I needed to install libpng, libpng-dev, and xlibs-dev which i did after some difficulty finding.

So what I want to know is why cant a program just be downloaded and installed as in Windows?????????? All this configuring, compiling, making nonsense

it is this sort of thing that puts people off Linux, and I dont regard myself as dim :(

So now MPlayer is installed as a command line program. A skin and a font has to be installed now.

So somehow you must have got hold of a simple package from somewhere. However that Delphi123 posting on the Xandros forum was 20 January 2004, not 2001???? where did you get that date from?. 		Terry Porritt (14)
222112 2004-03-18 09:00:00 Im sure it said Dec 2001 on the actual review....

Anyways, you should be able to install something like Synaptic or Yum... It'll take care of it all :-)

Ive just been playing with CrossoverOffice. Damn it rocks! Easy installation for any windows apps, its nothing short of a brilliant Front-End to Wine and more!

Well worth the look, I'll post some screenies soon


Chill. 		Chilling_Silence (9)
222113 2004-03-18 09:22:00 Well, after downloading all manner of queer objects from Debian.org, I managed to get K3b to burn!

I first downloaded v1 of cdrecord as a stable release, and that worked, but K3b was very sniffy about it and said that I should be using v2.

That is when I downloaded all manner of bits and pieces related to cdrecord v2 (said to be in testing!), installed them with (apparently) varying degrees of success. I then fired it up and burned another CD.

Score: Coasters 3, usable CDs 2!

I am now unsure if I am using v1 or v2, but at least K3b isn't being sniffy with me anymore so I suspect I got there by the grace of a greater power than me and a forked stick. K3b is better than the inbuilt burner.

What is weird about this whole thing is why it would burn with the original v2 installation under root (where there is nothing useful to burn anyway) but not under my user name. Then when I install it separately from K3b it works. Sheesh.

Thanks Chill. Can I go to bed now?

John 		John H (8)
222114 2004-03-18 09:31:00 John, thanks very much for doing that for me, that sounds brilliant! :-) Susan B (19)
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