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Thread ID: 43406	2004-03-13 22:31:00	Would you buy a Dell	berniebee (5367)	Press F1

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222360	2004-03-14 04:51:00	Just reinforcing Biff, there is nothing 'wrong" with any of the proprietary PC makes just as long as you are happy to use them as they are supplied, and not expect to be able to easily upgrade them. You must also be prepared to pay the extra cost of replacing something like a non-standard powersupply, or non-standard CD drive. There are heaps of older Dells, IBMs, Compaqs, coming out of government departments like IRD as they upgrade, and onto the auction market. These PCs are still working perfectly ok.	Terry Porritt (14)
222361	2004-03-14 05:05:00	We are not you and you are not us, so what we think is not what a lot of people think by the looks of it. and it may be what you need.....depending on the circumstances. i do not own a Dell, but have used my friends one i and i think they are ok. anything has limitations depending on what you need it to do. serious gaming and you would be better making one up from scratch, but just for the home newb type person who doesnt need to push the limits of the machines will do fine, what someone buys today will be outdated before it has left the shop anyway, so you are never going to be that one jump ahead. buy what you feel is right for you and what you are most comfortable with, (peice of mind and peice of pocket helps). i would buy a dell, probably, but the option to make one up (with lots of PF1 help) will be looked at before i make the decision either way. best of luck beetle	beetle (243)
222362	2004-03-14 13:07:00	berniebee: Put Dell into Press Fi's Search (top of this page) for a post by Lucy on Feb 8 as an example of a satisfied customer. Then check out other posts on the topic. You will find the spectrum ranges from those who want the reassurance of specific standards to Do-it-Yourselfers who think mass production was designed by the devil incarnate. (In other words, more of the same that you've already heard) It comes down to how much computer knowledge you have and how adventurous you're feeling..? You will get help here with problems, but not neccessarily the minute you want it That peace of mind beetle mentioned does cost more when buying mass-produced. But because it's standard, lots more people know how to fix it. (Personally, I'd love a customised computer. But I'm glad to have a standard old plodder to do my learning on first)	Laura (43)
222363	2004-03-14 13:16:00	Have just read the link provided by Metla. Certainly, that's a worry. Is the info still valid? I see it's dated 2002	Laura (43)
222364	2004-03-14 21:29:00	Im unsure about whether or not Dell and others are still putting non-standard psu's in their machines . Even if they have stopped,four years of doing so would mean a fair few systems out there with the bogus psu . I think if anything it highlights the staergy that dell takes with its market,and i pesonally don't like it,neither do people who have a dead psu who are then informed they need a new psu and motherboard . I have one coming in this afternoon from that period with a dead psu,i can guess what the customers reaction will be .	metla (154)
222365	2004-12-25 21:35:00	I have had shocking service form Computer future and would not use them again. Whys that? I have heard very good news about Computer Future in Christchurch... I would always recommend them to anyone wanting to purchase hardware. :D	indoorcricket (5398)
222366	2004-12-25 23:48:00	oh c'mon is it really necessary to bump up an old thread? especially one that is about buying a dell, ony brings trouble around here	Prescott (11)
222367	2004-12-26 03:34:00	Im unsure about whether or not Dell and others are still putting non-standard psu's in their machines . Even if they have stopped,four years of doing so would mean a fair few systems out there with the bogus psu . I think if anything it highlights the staergy that dell takes with its market,and i pesonally don't like it,neither do people who have a dead psu who are then informed they need a new psu and motherboard . I have one coming in this afternoon from that period with a dead psu,i can guess what the customers reaction will be . Metla, Played with some new ex demos and a couple of new servers . They still see to be following this line as do HP/Copaqu, the advantage to dell over H/Ps, you can still butcher a std PSU into a dell . Very hard to do to some Compac/hp with the direct connection to the board . D .	drb1 (4492)
222368	2004-12-26 03:54:00	OK I know the techno snobs look down on Dell but I have had a seven year faultless run out of my Dell and when I decide to replace it (in about 3 years) I will prob buy another one.	tutaenui (1724)
222369	2004-12-26 04:25:00	OK I know the techno snobs look down on Dell but I have had a seven year faultless run out of my Dell and when I decide to replace it (in about 3 years) I will prob buy another one . DEll make GOOD servers, They also make some good laptops . I would not advise anybody to buy dell new from the wharehouse or to buy new dell bottom line gear . Which is what so many home users buy . These users would often be better served buying used highergrade Dells EX Lease or Govt dept . at a more attractive price than the Wharehouse specialls . If you want to put in aftermarket cards and upgrade and play, Dell is not the Machine for you . If you want to put it on the desktop turn it on and off for severall years and replace it when it malfunctions . A good commerciall Quality used dell is probably suitable for you . And Much better value in the long term . Spend the extra money on that higher quality LCD screen and Higher quality printer . When you replace you malfunctioning box you will still have these highquality goods, in working order . Small dell desktops -PSU failure . Many many people buy small dell/HP-Compaqu desk tops or mini towers . They then fit CD/DVD burners to them and wonder why the PSU fails . These units have a minimum requirement PSU in them they ARE NOT specked to run burners . To a lesser degree this also applys to IBM small units . Tight Kiwis seem to have great difficulty coming to grips with this reality . D .	drb1 (4492)
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