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223236 2004-03-18 06:08:00 again in my experience no beeps mean ram is not working.........sure if you remove the ram the sytsem will beep but if it's installed but stuffed it wont beep it just wont post either.........try swap some out and exchange with other ram if you can......same with cpu if you got a spare...... drcspy (146)
223237 2004-03-18 06:16:00 no i dont think you understand we have taken out the ram and it still wont post we have even tried ram from another computer. still no post robert6655 (5176)
223238 2004-03-18 06:22:00 He didn't mean to be so forward in that post. He meant:

" Hmmm... there are two RAM Sticks. We tried one, then the other, then none. Tomorrow I will try some more. " 		Growly (6)
223239 2004-03-18 06:37:00 yep try different ram drcspy (146)
223240 2004-03-18 06:38:00 do the fans turn ?........ drcspy (146)
223241 2004-03-18 07:48:00 Yeah they all turn... power gets everywhere... cdrom spins... but no beep or screen! Growly (6)
223242 2004-03-18 07:59:00 seen that before and it was ram drcspy (146)
223243 2004-03-18 09:52:00 > > Dead mobo or cpu.Try the cpu first of course,then
> a
> > mobo.If its been oc'd they may both be dead.
> >
> > aern't you 2 the guys who run a business building
> and
> > fixing computers?
> >
> > Now you say you bought the system through a
> > shop......and you have no idea how to even begin
> > fixing it?
> >
> > How would you look if you were called out to a job
> > and you had no idea,or known good parts,or the
> > ability to source known good parts immediatly?
> >
>
> Thanks everyone, will do as suggested and get back to
> with results - except metla.
But Metla can have His/Her opinion here.
>
> 1) I had already figured that it was the motherboard,
> or the CPU. However, unlike you most probably would,
> metla, I'm not going to go and buy a new motherboard
> unless I know I absolutely have to.
I have no idea where you or your friend sourced the Motherboard and nor do I care.
>
> 2) Clearly you, too, have no Idea what you are doing.
> POST tests basic functions of the motherboard, and I
> have been taught that it is designed to beep when
> things go wrong. If, metla, it was a dead CPU, which
> i would not be surprised if it is, then can you
> explain to me, and guarantee that your explanation
> would work, as to why there is no beep? The
> motherboard manual clearly states "AmiBios Post Code
> Beeps : ... 5: Processor Error", and my question is:
> WHY NO BEEP?
That is a very good question... Unfortunately I don't have an answer right now.

> 3) Thankyou for your somewhat interesting remark to
> our business. This is completely irrelevant, and I
> see no point in explaining to you the incorrectness
> of your point, as it would waste both my time and
> yours. (If you want to make it personal, please email
> me.) But I'll go as far as saying that i cant afford
> to buy reserve stocks of motherboards just yet. Also,
> you claim we have no idea, but once again are wrong:
> I always have clear ideas of problems before coming
> here (I have difficulty getting nice answers out of
> people, case in point: yourself :D), and I was
> making sure before spending more money.

I went as far as downloading the motherboard manual for the Gigabyte motherboard you have.
>
> 4) Everyone else:
>
> i) By two speaker cables I meant the positive and
> the negative (Black and yellow in this case).
OK.
>
> ii) Speakers are not faulty, they've been checked
OK
>
> iii) Power supply is brand new. Shows no signs of
> power supply problems.
OK
>
> iv) No way of doing any software based tests on that
> thing.
Very true.
>
> v) The ram light turns on instantly with power. It
> makes you wonder the point of it, as there seems no
> time for it to check them on a degree more than that
> they exist. Yes, RAM is in POST, but it isn't the
> only thing.
>
> vi) Back to the main point: Why are there no beeps?
> Is it fair to assume by now that the motherboard is
> completely screwed over and that there is no
> reprival to be sought? If so, then the news is as
> grim as I thought : more money is needed.

I generally use Soltek or Gigabyte motherboards for all computers I have built and I found just one problem with one Gigabyte motherboard. This was returned to supplier for the same make and model.
>
> vii) I'll replace some parts with some from my
> computer (bear in mind that we are talking about my
> friend's) - my computer, that I built (metla), and
> that works perfectly (metla). Will let you know how
> I get on.

I would like to know how you get on. Just one or two points here... Have you inserted video card and if so what make and model?

I take it that the machine has been overclocked. Why would this be done with a 3200+ CPU?
>
> Thanks guys.

Assuming your motherboard can take the 3200+ then insert that in place of the one you have now. This hopefully will narrow the problem to the motherboard. 		Elephant (599)
223244 2004-03-18 09:59:00 > He didn't mean to be so forward in that post. He
> meant:
>
> " Hmmm... there are two RAM Sticks. We tried one,
> then the other, then none. Tomorrow I will try some
> more. "

There are four slots for RAM on that motherboard. In which slots are you putting the RAM... Max 3 Gigs. 		Elephant (599)
223245 2004-03-18 10:07:00 > > 2) Clearly you, too, have no Idea what you are
> > doing.
> > POST tests basic functions of the motherboard, and
> > I have been taught that it is designed to beep when
> > things go wrong. If, metla, it was a dead CPU,
> > which i would not be surprised if it is, then can you
> > explain to me, and guarantee that your explanation
> > would work, as to why there is no beep? The
> > motherboard manual clearly states "AmiBios Post
> > Code Beeps : ... 5: Processor Error", and my question is:
> > WHY NO BEEP?

> That is a very good question ... Unfortunately I don't
> have an answer right now.


if the CPU is faulty you will get 5 beeps.
if the CPU is cooked then it will often hold the reset line low and so stop the POST starting and so no beeps.

the no beeps could be the CPU cooked or the motherborad, due to the fact that you did over clocking i would think the CPU has been cooked but this in its self might have done bad things to the motherboard.

I dont think you can find out much more with out having part so swap with.

one option might be just to send it back as faulty and see what the shop says.

one last thought is have you jumpered out the BIOS (reset) ?? 		robsonde (120)
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