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Thread ID: 130551 2013-04-13 14:26:00 So much for "Marriage Equality" goodiesguy (15316) PC World Chat
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1336670 2013-04-14 10:29:00 So you're saying not everyone should get the same rights?

If I took away your right to food, and just your rights, would you be okay with that?

Everyone should get equal rights - that's the 'ideal' situation. In the real world, minorities don't get equal treatment whether you like it or not!
bk T (215)
1336671 2013-04-14 10:39:00 Everyone should get equal rights - that's the 'ideal' situation. In the real world, minorities don't get equal treatment whether you like it or not!

And this is precisely the issue we're trying to sort out. ;)
pcuser42 (130)
1336672 2013-04-14 10:41:00 PC42

You are now being silly :(

Please don't start comparing apples with bananas.
Zippity (58)
1336673 2013-04-14 10:45:00 The majority won't agree - that's what 'democracy' is about!? Majority rules.

Minorities should face the reality and accept it.
bk T (215)
1336674 2013-04-14 11:11:00 And this is precisely the issue we're trying to sort out. ;)

But as I've tried to explain to you previously, they've actually proposed taking away rights from straight people currently, but of course, you won't listen.
goodiesguy (15316)
1336675 2013-04-14 11:21:00 But as I've tried to explain to you previously, they've actually proposed taking away rights from straight people currently, but of course, you won't listen.How EXACTLY is it taking away straight peoples rights.

Its the same as two straight people male/female living together but not officially married. Just because they don't have a piece of paper saying they are married means nothing, if they want to live together they will.
wainuitech (129)
1336676 2013-04-14 11:22:00 But as I've tried to explain to you previously, they've actually proposed taking away rights from straight people currently, but of course, you won't listen. How are they taking our rights away, I'll still be able to marry who I want, I don't care about the terms :illogical pcuser42 (130)
1336677 2013-04-14 11:49:00 How are they taking our rights away, I'll still be able to marry who I want, I don't care about the terms :illogical

Some of us do care about the terms, and as I've explained, NON-RELIGIOUS/ATHIEST marriage celebrants are at risk of legal action and being forced to marry gay couples against their will/cultural/ethical beliefs.
goodiesguy (15316)
1336678 2013-04-14 12:21:00 It's also impeding on your right to an opinion, as well as freedom of speech, freedom to religious belief. So we're "upholding" the right of a minoring at the expense of 3 for the majority?

So no, the argument "Standing up for rights" is total BS. It's purely people jumping on the bandwagon... Anybody who's actually *read* what is being proposed would be standing up against the proposed amendments.
IF somebody is for same-sex marriages, fine, that's cool, but they need to be pushing for some *serious* amendments of the proposed law. You can be *for* same-sex marriages while still seeing the gaping flaws in what is being proposed.

As it stands, it looks like Louisa Wall basically got insulted one night about being lesbian and went home, put pen to paper while in a pissy mood, and drafted the amendment to make sure that nobody ever was able to question her relationship again. Then, her bill was plucked from the ballot a while later...

As mentioned pcuser42, go read the submission by Maxim. It's very well balanced and shows you exactly how the bill will be taking away the rights of others. Read the whole thing, not just the executive summary too.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1336679 2013-04-14 13:22:00 If the referendum said should marriage be only with man or woman yes or no it would a landslide No. At the moment a vocal minority are making a lot of noise far beyond their numbers. These people need silencing. prefect (6291)
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