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1358259 2013-11-02 00:28:00 From a web designers point of view, I go for platforms that have either the most market share, or cater for users who spend the most money online - the first being Android users and the 2nd being iDevice users. Anything after that is purely optional. :)

aren't you targeting browsers rather than platforms? Are you writing native apps too?
nmercer (3899)
1358260 2013-11-02 00:30:00 Not quite. For me it's about having disposable income and wanting something better, a fancier camera for example is what I'm hanging out for on a phone.

Also, Transformer Tablet, had all that he mentioned like USB, SD Card support, keyboard, mouse, bluetooth support, printing, browsing network shares, multitasking etc.... that came out what? 2+ years ago? Where's this "toy OS" you speak of?

Then the Transformer Pad Infinity also had a higher than Full-HD screen if that's your thing.
The "choice" has always been there, it's literally just "one more" in the market of dozens that'll fill that criteria.

in particular I'd say the toy OS is the one that is a big phone that all the sheep are using
nmercer (3899)
1358261 2013-11-02 01:28:00 I'd also point out I use an iPad, various Android Tablets and a Surface every day and I know which one I am able to be most productive on. Now sure I'm coming at it from a business point of view with my Surface - multitasking, side by side apps, a file system to copy files, the best remote desktop client, VPN support, a proper web browser than can use Flash if I need to, a USB port that supports a wide range of peripherals incl printers, a command line for when you need it, multi monitor etc

We all have our own definitions of productivity. Its easy to create a Tablet for amusing yourself with, watching videos, playing Angrybirds etc. I think its another story having a Tablet that actually crosses across being both a consumption and creation device and lets you do real work.... YMMV :thumbs: Thats got to be one of the best comeback answers I've seen in a while. :D

And its true -- A lot of people use popular tablets ( Androids / ipads) for "playing or basic functions" try to do any real work and they use either a Desktop PC or laptop.
wainuitech (129)
1358262 2013-11-02 04:00:00 So why then are so many businesses still opting for iPads if the Windows RT is so superior for "getting work done"? Chilling_Silence (9)
1358263 2013-11-02 04:10:00 So why then are so many businesses still opting for iPads if the Windows RT is so superior for "getting work done"?

Please don't let the truth get in the way of a good story. I remember when the iPad came out, it was totally misjudged by majority here. All opting for their almighty netbooks, pretty sure you can't buy a netbook anymore. Surface and rt tablets in general master nothing and a compromise at most things.
plod (107)
1358264 2013-11-02 04:20:00 :thumbs: Thats got to be one of the best comeback answers I've seen in a while. :D

And its true -- A lot of people use popular tablets ( Androids / ipads) for "playing or basic functions" try to do any real work and they use either a Desktop PC or laptop.
I think that when you give part of the IT decision making process to your employees and let them decide what device they want to use at work, I'd have to say that you will get a swing away from Windows.
Webdevguy (17166)
1358265 2013-11-02 04:36:00 Please don't let the truth get in the way of a good story. I remember when the iPad came out, it was totally misjudged by majority here. All opting for their almighty netbooks, pretty sure you can't buy a netbook anymore. Surface and rt tablets in general master nothing and a compromise at most things.
Good answer :)
Webdevguy (17166)
1358266 2013-11-02 04:47:00 aren't you targeting browsers rather than platforms? Are you writing native apps too?
I target browser based on device for responsive websites so we tend to build the site then upload to our remote server so that we can build and test on various devices as we go. As stated before, the testing preference is for iPhone/Android based on market share and highest amount of online purchases spent using a device range. We usually test on IE last due to a much smaller market share of mobile Windows device users.
I don't write native apps yet. Although I would say that corporate app building preference tends to gravitate towards the iPhone first, then Android... Then what ever comes next.
Webdevguy (17166)
1358267 2013-11-02 05:01:00 I think that when you give part of the IT decision making process to your employees and let them decide what device they want to use at work, I'd have to say that you will get a swing away from Windows. Any business that does that is asking for trouble. Some employees want the shiny toys that wont do what the company actually wants. So going by your theory the staff get the shiny toys because they look good, dont care about the cost, work cant be done-- Yeah real bright.

The ipads are a "halo" style effect, theres plenty of things they cant do, in fact one of my customers they were looking at getting tablets for the kids at their school ( over 200 of them) , they looked at the ipads and compared to the Androids at the time, Android won hands down as ipads couldn't do half the tasks. Some web sites dont work or display correctly on ipads where they do on Androids or Windows or Linux.

I know many places that the staff have ipads, but when they want to do some real work they use either laptops or Desktop PC's of either windows or MAC's, the ipads simply cant do the work.

I had Yellow pages here the other day sorting out some advertising, she tried to show me a couple of sites, some looked weird, so I opened the Android, and they looked as they were meant. Now you may say the sites not designed for ipads, well sorry but the ipad is NOT the be all to end all.

In bold in the quote -- care to provide some actual proof, or is it another one of these thats what I think comments ?
wainuitech (129)
1358268 2013-11-02 06:19:00 Yeah when I worked at Ricoh it was like that. Even first gen Android tablets beat out the iPad when we did objective independent tests in the IT team between like 7 different tablets...

They still went out and purchased over a hundred iPads :-/
Chilling_Silence (9)
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