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223435	2004-03-18 02:27:00	Hi Folks. On the verge of buying Ghost. Is there any difference between the solo version and the version which comes as part of the total Norton's package? The difference in price is one 10 - 15 dollars, which seems odd. I use AVG, having dumped Nortons some time ago. Thanks	Scouse (83)
223436	2004-03-18 03:49:00	I see that Norton only offers a stand alone Ghost 2003 version but a SystemWorks Pro 2004 version which also includes Ghost. I am not sure how much upgrading of the program they might of done for the SystemWorks Pro package. It is also interesting to note that they now have the rights for Drive Image 7 (www.symantec.com) as well. If you don't want the Antivirus software, nor the other bundled packages with NSW Pro, I would just go for the stand alone product. Before you buy though, check to make sure your CD/DVD writer is supported if you are going to be backing up directly to CD/DVD instead of a separate drive/partition. Ghost 2003 compatibility with CD-R, CD-RW, and DVD drives (service1.symantec.com). My new (at the time) Samsung CD-RW was not on that list, and will only make coasters for me when I tried to save the image directly to the CD.	Jen C (20)
223437	2004-03-18 06:03:00	> Hi Folks. > > On the verge of buying Ghost. Is there any > difference between the solo version and the version > which comes as part of the total Norton's package? > The difference in price is one 10 - 15 dollars, > rs, which seems odd. I use AVG, having dumped > Nortons some time ago. Thanks I use Ghost 2003 personal edition and have seen some of the other ghost bundels.. the only differnences seem to be the GUI interface and the number of images you can use / make... I never use the GUI interfaces any way and just use the ghost engine in DOS and never mark any drives which allows you to make as many images as you like!! it only seems to be the GUI that insists on marking drives etc.. Also some versions will not work with certain types of removable media or support networking....	ugh1 (4204)
223438	2004-03-18 06:04:00	Jen. Thanks for a very informative site. I have created a partition on my hard drive large enough to take a ghost of C's Windows and Programs partition. I have also today put an older 30 gig drive in the box, so I should have the choice of ghosting to the partition on my main drive or to the second drive. My DVD writer is a NEC 1300A series, but the guranteed NEC is flagged in your offered site as being of the 100 series so I may not be able to ghost directly to a set of DVD's. Your help appreciated. Will probably get the ghost program next week. Let you know.	Scouse (83)
223439	2004-03-18 06:06:00	ugh1 - thanks. I was so busy pecking away at the keyboard that I missed your message.	Scouse (83)
223440	2004-03-18 20:26:00	Hi Scouse I endorse the use of the DOS functions for Ghost, the advanced features can take a little work to understand but they are fast and reliable. I do use the DOS GUI though. Re your second drive, keep an original image of your C: drive there and copy your current image across each time too. It will protect you in the event of failure of the main drive. I use a separate drive for Data and cross-ghost between the two so that I am protected no matter which drive fails. AFAIK there is no difference between the stand-alone product and the bundled for premium packages, but there could be some reduced functionality for cut-price bundles. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
223441	2004-03-19 00:41:00	Hi Blly T... Re your second drive, keep an original image of your C: drive there and copy your current image across each time too. It will protect you in the event of failure of the main drive. Yesy, I had something like that in mind. Does the copying of the current image overwrite the previou? Thinking here of space. I use a separate drive for Data and cross-ghost between the two so that I am protected no matter which drive fails Cross-ghost? What is? Basically I have set up with 4 partitions and the old drive. (C) is Windows and Programs, (D) is Swap, (E) is Data and odd stuff including all sorts of downloaded shareware and freeware. (F) is spare and (G) is the older 30 GB disk. Additionally I have (H) as my DVD-RW and (I) as my CD-RW. (F) is going to be my backup of (E) Data on the way to being copied to DVD and (G) is going to be my Ghost of (C). Hope that makes sense.	Scouse (83)
223442	2004-03-19 21:36:00	Hi Scouse Sorry about the delay in replying, i had to ferret around in my archives to find everything I wanted to send you . I sense a new FAQ coming out of this, I don't think we have one yet . The following may help explain more than your question, but that is answered in point 6 . <If you are serious about getting into drive imaging, the following advice may be of assistance . It is a re-edited extract from a previous post I made some time ago: Here is the best way to set up this system: 1) Have your existing hard drive partitioned as C: and E: 2) Have a second hard drive installed and partitioned as D: and F: 3) Transfer all your data to D:, including the files for your email (outlook . pst for Outlook 2000) . Don't forget to reset the target drive for your email & other program data files so that they know where to store their data . 4) Once your computer is set up as you want it and working well, create an image of your OS and programs on C: using Norton Ghost or Drive Image and store it on the second hard drive in the F: partition . Name this file as the "original" and keep it unchanged . This is then your ultimate "return to go" option . You can keep an even earlier image of just the bare OS on its own if you like and that will save future reinstallations . 5) Make regular images (back ups) of your data on D: and store these on the E: partion of your original drive . Before creating an image, delete all temporary & redundant files, run scandisk then defrag to ensure that you have the smallest & cleanest file structure . Verify that the disk is ok by booting to make sure the OS is OK (or data checks for a data disk) before creating the image, and use Ghost Explorer to check that the files are similarly accessible after the image is created . 6) Cross-Ghosting: If you want a belt n' braces backup system, keep a copy of your current C: image on the main drive in the E: partition, and a copy of your current D: data on F: on your data drive . That way you have multiple redundancy options . I actually store spare backups on another computer on the network as well, that way if I suffer fire, theft or other (unspecified) disaster in my office, I can commandeer another computer and image it as per my defunct box inside of an hour and be back at work . Note that this will only work if the second computer has the identical hardware profile to the first . The C: drive image is otherwise only usable to restore on the original drive, or a new drive in the same system . The following advice tells you how to overcome that little problem as well: From Terry Porrit in a post on transferring your OS and programs to a new computer with a different HDD and hardware configuration: With Norton ghost you make a boot floppy with the Ghost program on it, and do all your ghosting from the floppy, with the drives hooked up as master and slave . Much more importantly though, your OS on the C: partition will spit and cough if you try to run it in the new machine after copying over, because all the hardware is different . What you want to do BEFORE removing your existing drive, OR copying to the new one, is to go to Device Manager, and remove EVERY single device from there, including all the PCI stuff, every bit, mouse last of all . Then you can copy over the partitions using Ghost images with the 2 drives hooked up as master and slave, but dont let the stripped down drive boot into windows while it is attached to the old computer or it will put all the devices back again . When the drive is put back in the new machine and booted Windows will re-detect all the hardware . Inmy case the hardware-stripped image is on CDs so I can just pop it into another computer and away I go . Of course the commandeered computer can be fully restored from its own image file once I have finished with it . If only life's hiccups were always so easy to get around . 7) Every time you make a significant change to your OS or programs, such as installing a service pack or video driver update, create an new image and store this in F: along with the most recent backup . Once you have verified that the update is OK you can delete the previous image (but not the original "return to go" image) . Kep your hardware free image up to date as well . Using this system, if your OS or program files get corrupted or one or the other drives fails completely, you can be back to normal in no time at all . For example, if your C: & E: drive dies, you can have a new drive installed and partitioned, then dump across your C: image from the still working F: partition and away you go . Similarly, if your D: & F: drive fails, you can install and partition a replacement, then dump your data back from the image on E:, and transfer your current C: image I have been using this system for some years now on all my computers and I have never had to reinstall an OS or programs . However, I have used images several times, mostly on my children's computers as a quicker option than finding what was wrong, especially for failed installations . You can also configure Ghost to ignore certain file types such as . tmp, . gho (so that you don't try to image your Ghost images), . swp (swap file) or any other file type for which you don't need backups . You may want to exclude certain directories as well and although I have not looked deeply into that, I am sure it can be done . I actually got into this regime after my original computer needed reformatting and reinstallation of programs about once every six weeks for about a year . The cause was finally diagnosed, but I bought the original Ghost Personal Edition the minute that it was first released and I have never looked back since . It offers great peace of mind! Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
223443	2004-03-19 21:59:00	If I recall, ghost 2003 also allows you to ghost over a LAN as well. Not available in previous versions.	Pheonix (280)
223444	2004-03-19 23:54:00	> If I recall, ghost 2003 also allows you to ghost over > a LAN as well. Not available in previous versions. Yes it does, using TCP/IP, netyuck or IPX/SPX. What is even better is for the TCP/IP option it supports the clarkson packet driver type drivers which means GOOD network card support... Over a 100Mb network it is quick enough... The only pain is the wizzard for making the boot disk misses a very important command line pram for the packet driver and the network card will not work!! Still, who bothers to use wizzards anyway<grin >	ugh1 (4204)
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