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224570 2004-03-23 21:33:00 you can cut the tension with a blunt knife here, this is great MrBeef (342)
224571 2004-03-23 22:46:00 > Heh, interesting posts.
>
> I will use The Gimp now, as Unisys emailed back, and
> said that I can use the LZW, (or LWZ?) compression
> with GIF files in New Zealand.
The GIMP 2.0 rocks....!

> > Errrrkkkk PNG files. Very good format but who uses
> > them? What are you trying to do here? Why use
> > PhotoElements2 in particular?
>
> PNG is used by a lot of people, because of the
> problem with the LZW patents in some countries. I
> just noticed that the whole Gimp website uses them.

There's a website.. I cant remember, but its something like burnallgifs.com.. worth a laugh ;-)
PNG offers everything that GIFs do, including transparency, animated images, as well as several other notable things.

I personally use PNG's where I can if I want a high-quality image. If I want a small image, then I'll usually stick to jpegs.


Chill.
Chilling_Silence (9)
224572 2004-03-23 23:34:00 The battle continues. Don't give up now guys, we need the entertainment.

As to the legality and enforceability of the End User Licenses -

The sellers create a problem in that they impose conditions on the buyer which can only be read after the software package is opened.

Your choice at that point is either to accept the conditions, or return the product. The retailer then has to decide whether this is a genuine return or fraud (the software having been already installed). Naturally they generally refuse a refund.

However the law says that you can make a return - but you may need to be able to prove the software has not been installed. Your word may not be enough.

It is true that EULA may not be completely enforceable in every respect in New Zealand. Each case has to be decided on it's facts.
Eg: software which promised to control a LAN and implied it could be installed on all machines, should not limit itself to only one installation. Five might be reasonable before more licenses are needed.
Winston001 (3612)
224573 2004-03-23 23:40:00 Your second post in this thread ele was directed at me personally,not at the debate.

You done it for the purpose of stirring,and because my contined presence on this forum seems to agrivate you immensly.

Your a petty liitle man ele and i have asked you before to knock the crap off.
metla (154)
224574 2004-03-24 01:22:00 ok heres another way......i fyou have two networked pc's and y ou want to be able to use this program on both but maybe are only allowed to install on one...................try this.......get a program (free) called 'tightVNC' this'll allow you to bring up the desktop of either computer on the other...........in other words you can operate both pc's from one........so.......that means that you can then use the program on pc1 while you sit at pc2........which sorta helps maybe......... drcspy (146)
224575 2004-03-24 01:57:00 At one point Borland had, what I consider to be a very reasonable license of use (for software). You could treat it like a book i.e. only one person can use the software at one time. You could install on a number of pc's but only one person could use it. I'm not sure whether they continue to use this (I suspect not) as its very reasonable for users. This is one reason I preferred to use Borland software over one rather large corporation who stamps on anyone or anything that gets in its way of being a monopoly. Long live competition. Dolby Digital (160)
224576 2004-03-24 02:04:00 That's a liscence we could do with more of IMO!

That and the GPL ;-)
Chilling_Silence (9)
224577 2004-03-24 05:30:00 I think a license in english would be good. Instead of a word, followed by a million others in brackets, and then check the dictionary for half of them. Bah! mejobloggs (264)
224578 2004-03-24 05:35:00 > You done it for the purpose of stirring,and because
> my contined presence on this forum seems to agrivate
> you immensly.

Might I just add, with a gentle note of reproach, that the above spelling and grammar "agrivates" me too.

Please use the spellchecker - not just you either Metla. :D
Winston001 (3612)
224579 2004-03-24 05:35:00 > I personally use PNG's where I can if I want a
> high-quality image. If I want a small image, then
> I'll usually stick to jpegs.


Ah, but there is a problem with that in my opinion.

GIF's are good for pictures with a large area of same colour, and it compresses it very well.

PNG's are the same, but do not seem to compress it as good, and I had some problems with the colours last time I tried, wich is about the first time I tried.

JPEG's are for compressing images that have more detail, or have a 3D appearance etc.

I just found GIF's easier, but I would like to learn more about PNG's also.
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