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| Thread ID: 43889 | 2004-03-30 10:49:00 | Which way is up (with a hard drive)? | aperahama (1786) | Press F1 |
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| 226072 | 2004-03-31 05:28:00 | And of course, there's the old saying: "There are eight ways to insert a floppy disk in a drive, only two of which are interesting". (For those who have never seen these animals, 8" and 5¼" floppies were in square envelopes, and started out single-sided. To get more storage you could turn them over. And when they were $15 each, you wanted to. ;-)) | Graham L (2) | ||
| 226073 | 2004-03-31 07:45:00 | So what do Nasa use in Zero G? | PoWa (203) | ||
| 226074 | 2004-03-31 09:32:00 | There's many reasons for companies to buy local,NZ companies should suport each other. There is no justification for sending all that money offshore when locals can provide the same product and service for the same ballpark cost. Shame on you all. |
metla (154) | ||
| 226075 | 2004-03-31 10:33:00 | > So what do Nasa use in Zero G? Sloppies. Cheers Murray ;P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 226076 | 2004-03-31 11:12:00 | and the fact that harddrives work in a ( near ) vacuum anyway, so whatever the orientation of the harddrive is in is irrelevant. :) |
zminos (5010) | ||
| 226077 | 2004-03-31 13:01:00 | nzstan, I do feel I have been a bit hard on you (once I hear the whole story). I can and do appreciate your reasons for using a major brand. It had just sounded a little strange to me when I read the article. My apologies to you. Sorry it took so long to get back to you I've only just looked at the message. |
aperahama (1786) | ||
| 226078 | 2004-03-31 20:39:00 | Not true zminos. The drives do not work in a near vacuum, in fact they would not work at all if in a vacuum. The heads are very tiny air bearings which work in a way the same as a hydrodynamic oil bearing, eg your cars big-end bearing, but with low viscosity, compressible gas, and at gaps so tiny that the molecular free-path of the air is significant. The heads are angled a very tiny fraction in the direction of rotation so as to form an "aerodynamic" wedge that provides the lift and separation from the platter. As regards orientation, this is a question of gravity. In older drives the pivotting mechanism can wear to give what is called a "dead-spot" in the servo drive, another error in servos is droop as already mentioned. The effect of this is that the head positions can change as the drive is turned on its side, or upside down, and the servo drive cannot compensate for a dead-spot. The effect is negligible in new, modern drives, but it is still a very good idea to format a drive when installed in the machine, or in the same orientation as it will be in the machine. Cheers |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 226079 | 2004-04-01 01:35:00 | > There's many reasons for companies to buy local,NZ > companies should suport each other. > > There is no justification for sending all that money > offshore when locals can provide the same product and > service for the same ballpark cost. > > Shame on you all. I am always willing to reconsider my views. So please do tell me if you can come up with a nationwide vendor of PCs, Servers and Printers that can offer IBM or HP tiered discounts levels for their hardware plus provide 24x7 technically competent support engineers that are willing to come out at 11.45pm on a Friday night to go out to Waiheke Island to fix a server problem. There are different horses for courses. If I was working for a small localised company eg based in Auckland only and do not have mission critical systems, do not operate on weekends and public holidays, then perhaps (and I stress, perhaps) I might consider buying locally assembled PCs, which by the way only consist of parts imported from overseas and built using local labour. If local labour is the only local cost, then what is the difference between a local assembler with 10 local staff vs an international company with 100 local staff who are all paying the same taxes? The price difference between a discounted international PC is marginal to a locally assembled PC. Your ideals are commendable, but unfortunately it is a free market and I'm sure if you look around your living room you'll be surprised how much of your hard earned dollars have been remitted overseas. |
nzStan (440) | ||
| 226080 | 2004-04-01 02:19:00 | Perhaps if large companies actually suported local companies they would be able to provide that level of suport.(this is called a sidestep...........ha) As for my dollars going overseas,i would always buy a TV or other such appliance from a NZ company,i don't expect them to acuatully manufacter the beast here.The computer market is a different kettle of fish compared to other purchases. Besides which,my shame on you all comment was meant more as a general ribbing rather then actually expecting anyone to feel shame over there purchases. |
metla (154) | ||
| 226081 | 2004-04-01 03:20:00 | > Perhaps if large companies actually suported local > companies they would be able to provide that level of > suport.(this is called a sidestep...........ha) I did. I purchased from PC Direct for years. Even my home PC was from PC Direct. I've organised countless PC Direct PCs for friends and collegues who wanted one at home. So what happened? PC Direct sell out to Gateway. Gateway close down PCDirect. Add other local companies that close down in the last few years and you can see why I don't feel confident buying from them. > > As for my dollars going overseas,i would always buy a > TV or other such appliance from a NZ company,i don't > expect them to acuatully manufacter the beast > here.The computer market is a different kettle of > fish compared to other purchases. > I have nothing more to add to this. (*insert picture of beating a dead horse*) > > Besides which,my shame on you all comment was meant > more as a general ribbing rather then actually > expecting anyone to feel shame over there purchases. > No offence taken at all. My reply here was much more tempered than what I would usually post at NZGames or GPStore. Much more so especially since you all have the advantage over me of knowing where I work. :P (disclaimer - the photo added 10 additional pounds to my weight!) |
nzStan (440) | ||
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