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Thread ID: 43962	2004-04-02 09:50:00	Explanation and one big question.	hamstar (4)	Press F1

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226678	2004-04-02 09:50:00	Look. I don't want to turn this thread into another argument but I just want to know: Why will no-one converse about microsoft!? What are they a sponsor here? Have they got you all by the throats? Have they threatened to make the latest release of IE boycott the pressf1 site if I don't shut up. Why?! The most popular OS? Sure, but do people like it? For some reason you just put up with the constant errors? Best gaming console? Pchssshh! What more could I want? My computer not to crash! Ever! If you read those links I posted on the other site you will actually understand that they are not good at all. There is not one good thing they have done for computers. They are devious. They are monopolistic. They do not innovate. They are not consumer minded. Their software is full of holes. None of their software is actually made by them. They have used the same old unstable code for all of their programs/os's since day one. XP is the most unreliable OS ever made because if all the bells and whistles they put on it. Word is counter-productive. And yet we all still use their POS software and OS's and put up with the crap that the lucky few who use linux would not. -=[>>>>>>>WHY!?<<<<<<<]=-	hamstar (4)
226679	2004-04-02 10:09:00	Some people use Macs remember and so don't have to put up with the constant updates and patches, viruses, spyware and security problems. Most people don't know any different than to use IE and OE and so defend the system that they know but there are many people on this forum who have moved to Linux and have also started to use alternative browsers and mail clients. There is a slow but sure awakening but it will take time to build up momentum	Jim B (153)
226680	2004-04-02 10:09:00	well before this gets locked . . . . . why does everyone use MS ?? becuase everyone else does . mass market . its hard enough learning windows let alone another OS that none of your mates use . also simply because it works well enough . dispite all the hassles/bugs etc it still works ok and most peole can point and click their way through it . proberly the biggest reason why people use MS is simply they don't know any better . they use what they are given . lack of good alternatives . untill recently linux was to geeky for most to even consider it . even i have crashed and killed a few linux installs . linux is not without its faults . windows basicly gave customer what they wanted . for most customers sicurity, being bug free and stable is not high on their list . they are more than happy to trade bugs for features . however with customer focus starting to turn more on sicurity and with more windows like linux distros comeing out, linux hopefully will start to give MS a run for their money :)	tweak'e (174)
226681	2004-04-02 10:10:00	Dude, not sure what you are trying to achieve, but get it off your chest . Yes, they aren't perfect . Neither is any large company . I don't agree with petrol taxes but I still buy it . Xtra really piss me off but I told the woosh guy yesterday it just isn't worth the hassle . Let it go, move on . Don't be sad when things crash, be grateful when they don't . robo .	robo (205)
226682	2004-04-02 10:57:00	Win2K Professional seems rock solid to me. Rob.	zqwerty (97)
226683	2004-04-02 11:01:00	I think debate is healthy as long as the tone is kept reasonable . I note robo's post has a certain air of, oh c**p just what we need right on the weekend, someone stirring up a whole heap of vitriol . I happen to agree with much of what hamstar is saying and many more will do the same . I believe MS has over stepped the mark of what a constitutes a good corporate citizen . Unfortunately, I view much of what they now do and the products that they "produce" with a large dose of cynicysm . In the past they have done a great job of making computing accessible to the mass market, me being one of those, and made a bundle of well desevered money along the way . Their focus has now shifted to domination in every facet of what they do rather than it only be a marketing policy previously . For myself their days are numbered . I ditched IE & OE about a year ago . Windows now shares my harddrives and cpu cycles with Linux with the intention that within a month or so my business will no longer be an outpost of Microsoft or it's ways . I can not afford to be worrying about the next patch, crash, corrupted word doc or trusted strategy from MS & it's cabal of willing and unwilling cohorts . The sary thing is they want my hardware as well . I just wish they would give it a rest and work on being a good solid blue chip stock and leave world domination to Dubya and his playmates in the middle east (cripes this is turning into a rant :8} . hamstar what have you done ;) ) . I'm going to get out while the going is goodish with one last thought . They've been a driving force in desktop computing for so long and been so good for so many it's just a crying shame that they have lost sight of what and who helped get them there . Cheers Murray P	Murray P (44)
226684	2004-04-02 11:10:00	> Look. > > I don't want to turn this thread into another > argument but I just want to know: Why will no-one > converse about microsoft!? Because it is simply a pointless waste of time and effort winging hamstar. If you don't like them, pick an alternative OS or program source and use that instead, but bashing your gums about them is pointless. MS have many more satisfied customers than they do complainers, so if you don't like them, just get over it and get on with life. You have too few years on this planet to burn yourself out with futile criticising and carping about something you can't change, especially here where your talents are better used helping people. Go join the lucky few, PF1 supports Linux too. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
226685	2004-04-02 11:11:00	In ten years time Bill Gates will be the head of a new company building apartments in Florida. So the reality is, we don't have anything to worry about, do we. America will understand what we went through with the leaky buildings. :p	agent (30)
226686	2004-04-02 11:15:00	One other reason why your other thread got locked & this one as well, is because, in my option people are (on this forum, at lest) are getting sick & tired of reading on Press F1 how bad MS & how buggy MS windows is etc...etc.., & this is also most coming up as much as how bad telecom is! It does not matter how much moaning on forums you make, it WILL take time before thing change For example, some people are still using windows 95 or win NT for one reason or another, & one of the main reason why people don’t use newer stuff is some people don’t like change & they are happy with what they got & the other reason is some people like to wait (like me) to see what happen with new stuff, example, me running win me, instead of win xp (as I know there is issues with win xp at the moment, so that is why I am waiting in till way after win xp sp 2 is released before I think about upgrading(unless I need to upgrade sooner for one reason or another ) & one other reason why people use older stuff( & some times then we get issues with hackers/virus etc… etc… but I will not go there) & one finial reason why people still use old stuff is because in some cases newer stuff costs more money( which it seems people are getting less off now days). I hope you guys/girls understand where I am coming from & I hope the above makes some sense. Also like what robo said, if you are not happy with windows use another OS, instead of morning about it & making a flame thread, about how unhappy you are with windows.	stu140103 (137)
226687	2004-04-02 11:20:00	> Xtra really piss me off but I told the woosh > guy yesterday it just isn't worth the hassle . Woah there . . . . Xtra over Woosh??? Now that's just crazy talk .	whiskeytangofoxtrot (438)
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