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Thread ID: 131156 2013-04-28 07:07:00 Is Rodney asking for a hideing again? R2x1 (4628) PC World Chat
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1338672 2013-04-28 07:07:00 The wee chap is reputed by reporters here ( . nzherald . co . nz/opinion/news/article . cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10880131" target="_blank">www . nzherald . co . nz) to have said
Buses along roads strike me intuitively . . . Many pedestrians on footpaths, and voters in general are similarly minded . Hasn't done any good yet though .
R2x1 (4628)
1338673 2013-04-28 07:57:00 He's definitely getting a hideing from me...


Many more people live closer to a bus stop than a train station. That's because buses go along roads that people live on. Buses can also pass one another. Trains can't do that.

As if that's the only thing to consider when implementing a public transport network. Ideally, feeder buses would pick people up and drop them off at the railway station. And trains can pass each other. :rolleyes:

Auckland Transport Blog commented on the article as well (transportblog.co.nz).
pcuser42 (130)
1338674 2013-04-28 08:14:00 Right. I'm off to catch the bus to the Takapuna station, where I'll take the train to Titirangi. See you there in 2656, possibly quite late in the day.
Might be quicker if I went via Waikumete station. Plenty of waiting rooms there. ;)
R2x1 (4628)
1338675 2013-04-28 09:19:00 Modern buses on dedicated bus lines should be just as good if not better than trains. Of course, it will be a hard sell to add a dedicated bus lane in both directions to every major road, and upgrade the traffic lights at every intersection to always give the bus right of way. Greven (91)
1338676 2013-04-28 09:28:00 Modern buses on dedicated bus lines should be just as good if not better than trains.

It's far easier to add capacity to trains than buses though, simply add more carriages. To increase the bus capacity - add more buses, and therefore congestion, even on busways.


Of course, it will be a hard sell to add a dedicated bus lane in both directions to every major road, and upgrade the traffic lights at every intersection to always give the bus right of way.

Especially when the trains already have right-of-way over everything else...
pcuser42 (130)
1338677 2013-04-28 09:44:00 The clock, and common sense, seem to have immunity from the trains' right of way ;) R2x1 (4628)
1338678 2013-04-28 10:58:00 It's far easier to add capacity to trains than buses though, simply add more carriages. To increase the bus capacity - add more buses, and therefore congestion, even on busways.
Platform length may come into it??
PPp (9511)
1338679 2013-04-28 11:08:00 Platform length may come into it?? True, but all platforms currently handle six car trains, and some are longer still. pcuser42 (130)
1338680 2013-04-28 23:43:00 And trains can pass each other.

Really?

How do they do that?

By levitation?

If an Express (or any other unit) wants to pass a local train, it can only do so if the train being passed is switched to a siding until the Express has gone by. That can entail a lengthy wait for the Express to pass because sidings are not a regular feature of our lines, except at major stations.

Timing safety margins are vital, as experience in India has amply demonstrated. We only recently expanded our local network to two lines, and once you go south of Hamilton it is single-line all the way to Paraparaumu (I think) then two lines again into Wellington.

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :confused:
Billy T (70)
1338681 2013-04-29 00:02:00 I kinda agree to the article,
Auckland transportation is poor and I've only caught one train during 20 years of living in nz.
I caught the train once during my life time in NZ and that was from city to Sylvia Park. I woke up at 10am left at 10;15 to take the bus to city where I waited another half an hour for the train to come. I arrived at Sylvia park at 3PM. Thats like travelling to wellington?
The hop card machine on the platform of sylvia park didn't work so had to pay cash.
The train sorta smelled and felt uncomfortable to ride on.
Buses can sometimes be aweful. Bus drivers would simply drive pass the bus stop and ignore you. I stopped a bus to ask for direction who didn't see and close the door on me. My jacket was caught on the door for a few second,
I really have nothing good to say about the transport here.
I mean I love to catch public transport and sleep on the buses and train but just not ideal, I now drive to work and everywhere.
I wonder how long before the train can reach north shore? I'll give them twenty years
Ninjabear (2948)
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