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Thread ID: 44180	2004-04-10 09:30:00	OT: X-Box for Easter	miknz (3731)	Press F1

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228426	2004-04-13 10:18:00	If GT4 is built on the standards as set by prior games in the series then it will be no more of a sim then gotham racing, Consoles just don’t have the grunt to run a detailed physics engine with its thousands of variables and display nice graphics at the same time(without even mentioning damage effects or AI)	metla (154)
228427	2004-04-14 00:46:00	Project Gotham sucks..... And no, you do need a mod-chip. You cannot flash the MS Bios. You can however install Linux without a Mod-chip if that's you aim ;-) I cant wait for Halo 2, its going to kick ass! Chill.	Chilling_Silence (9)
228428	2004-04-14 02:08:00	Hey with these mod chips, does the Xbox still password protect any new hard drives you put in it?	Orion (5481)
228429	2004-04-14 02:14:00	havent played project gotham 1 so cant comment there but part 2 is great. Excellant graphics and car models are great, you can feel the difference in front and rear wheel drive cars all have a different driving style. I am wrapped with it! I am a first time Halo player and found it a little dull to start part now that I am off the ship and onto the planet it is great, will spend some more time on it tonight and hopefully get a bit further. cheers X-Box rox Mike	miknz (3731)
228430	2004-04-14 02:14:00	You can leave it locked or unlocked... up to you. Lo.	Lohsing (219)
228431	2004-04-14 02:43:00	Password protecting the XBox is cool... Having to put in the right code on the controller before it loads the dash is a cool feature Ive been meaning to look into. Miknz> Hang in there.. Get off the ship and onto the planet below and you'll be hooked. Get a friend to play too, two heads are better than one :-) Chill.	Chilling_Silence (9)
228432	2004-04-14 04:13:00	If GT4 is built on the standards as set by prior games in the series then it will be no more of a sim then gotham racing, Consoles just don’t have the grunt to run a detailed physics engine with its thousands of variables and display nice graphics at the same time(without even mentioning damage effects or AI) The above is not correct. Even on PS1 it was quite obvious what type of car you were driving, ie FF,FR,MR, also individual cars were quite different from each other and could be drastically changed by your user adjustable settings. GT3 and Concept on the PS2 took this ability a lot further and a dog car could be made into a dancing sprite of a vehicle with sufficient time and knowledge. I drove in a New Zealand wide championship event to find the fastest time round a particular track and I do not consider myself to be fooling myself, I am an expert at tuning cars in the Gran Turismo games. If you really feel that the acknowledged world leader in driving sims does not run well on the PS2 with real driving excitement then you are uninformed or you have not played the games long enough to make a good judgement. The reason I feel strongly about this is that there are so few games that come up to my high standards and hearing this discussed in a way that may put people off from trying Gran Turismo on the PlayStation thus causing them to miss one of the things that I consider to be the highlights of my life. That is, playing each of the games in the series from beginning to end and basically doing everything and achieving all the licences at Gold Level, if possible. Gaining experience to the point where all you have to do is drive any other game for a few minutes to know whether or not you are going to get the rewards available in the GT series. Seriously, this game (Gran Turismo I,II,III,) was a major part of my life for about two years and I am so disappointed that I can find no other driving game to match it, and that is because it is better by far, and this is acknowledged to be so by anyone who knows their stuff when it comes to driving games in general. A lot of people just go back and play the games again once they realize there is nothing else on the market that comes up to the standard. When GT4 comes out it is going to have online capability and I can't wait to challenge people to a race. Anytime anyone who considers that they have learned enough from playing any of the other racing games, and are able to present a reasonable race challenge, I would love to hear from them, and if you beat me then have a try against my nephew, I doubt that many people can drive at his standard. All in fun, but I mean it, this is a serious masterpiece of gaming software and I hate to think that there are people around who can get it so wrong, and cause others to miss out on a great experience. Regards Robert Worrill	zqwerty (97)
228433	2004-04-14 04:21:00	The fact that GT was a major part of your life for 2 years is a wee bit sad. But anyway, whenever I've had the opportunity to use a PS I always get extremely frustrated at the amount of time one has to sit there waiting for the thing to load graphics that are akin to old DOS VGA games. Being based on a PC, Xbox is far advanced with its capability to model in 3D; therefore graphics are going to be better. I was telling people years ago not to buy PS2, but to wait for Xbox.	antmannz (28)
228434	2004-04-14 05:27:00	i got frustrated with both ps2 and xbox so i went to a gamecube, great graphics, awesome controller,awesome games, and virtually 0 load time	robert6655 (5176)
228435	2004-04-14 06:03:00	> If GT4 is built on the standards as set by prior > games in the series then it will be no more of a sim > then gotham racing, Consoles just don’t have the > grunt to run a detailed physics engine with its > thousands of variables and display nice graphics at > the same time(without even mentioning damage effects > or AI) > > > The above is not correct. > > Even on PS1 it was quite obvious what type of car you > were driving, ie FF,FR,MR, also individual cars were > quite different from each other and could be > drastically changed by your user adjustable settings. > GT3 and Concept on the PS2 took this ability a lot > further and a dog car could be made into a dancing > sprite of a vehicle with sufficient time and > knowledge. I drove in a New Zealand wide > championship event to find the fastest time round a > particular track and I do not consider myself to be > fooling myself, I am an expert at tuning cars in the > Gran Turismo games. If you really feel that the > acknowledged world leader in driving sims does not > run well on the PS2 with real driving excitement > then you are uninformed or you have not played the > games long enough to make a good judgement. > > The reason I feel strongly about this is that there > are so few games that come up to my high standards > and hearing this discussed in a way that may put > people off from trying Gran Turismo on the > PlayStation thus causing them to miss one of the > things that I consider to be the highlights of my > life. That is, playing each of the games in the > series from beginning to end and basically doing > everything and achieving all the licences at Gold > Level, if possible. Gaining experience to the point > where all you have to do is drive any other game for > a few minutes to know whether or not you are going to > get the rewards available in the GT series. > > Seriously, this game (Gran Turismo I,II,III,) was a > major part of my life for about two years and I am so > disappointed that I can find no other driving game to > match it, and that is because it is better by far, > and this is acknowledged to be so by anyone who knows > their stuff when it comes to driving games in > general. A lot of people just go back and play the > games again once they realize there is nothing else > on the market that comes up to the standard. > > When GT4 comes out it is going to have online > capability and I can't wait to challenge people to a > race. Anytime anyone who considers that they have > learned enough from playing any of the other racing > games, and are able to present a reasonable race > challenge, I would love to hear from them, and if you > beat me then have a try against my nephew, I doubt > that many people can drive at his standard. > > All in fun, but I mean it, this is a serious > masterpiece of gaming software and I hate to think > that there are people around who can get it so wrong, > and cause others to miss out on a great experience. > > Regards Robert Worrill Oh my,that is the funnist post i have ever read. The GT series is a simplistic arcade game,held back by the limitations of the hardware and a basic physics engine,the fact they they encoded varibles into the physics engine does not make it a sim. If you can play it with a gamepad then it aint a sim. If you can do a decent lap within 10 minutes of trying the game for the first time then it aint a sim. If you can get anywhere near real-world laptimes within 2 months of playing the game then it aint no sim. Simplistic maybe but not a simulation. If you need your eyes opened up just a little more try paying a visit to http://www.racesimcentral.com/ Then buy yourself a forcefeedback wheel,and a couple of the games for PC and welcome to the world of racing simulations. Or stay in arcade land.	metla (154)
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