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Thread ID: 44326	2004-04-15 22:05:00	More than one ADSL modem on the same phone line?	John H (8)	Press F1

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229546	2004-04-16 04:13:00	Well, I took the phone off its cradle and unplugged the cradle from power and phone line to see what happened. Still had dropping network syndrome. I then realised the batteries were still in the handset (duh!) so that probably wasn't a good test. I then took the batteries out, and left the laptop on but still got dropped network. I then gave up, and fired everything up again including the phone. The network has been stable since then for about an hour and a half (shhhh!). I remember the guy who sold me the phone said that you should have the wireless network working when you first power on the phone. He said that the base station searches for existing transmitters and then sets itself to avoid conflicts. I guess it is possible that this didn't occur properly when I set the phone up the first time... Wouldn't it be sweet if it has now unknotted its knickers through being completely powered down and resetting itself on power up whilst the network was functioning (I notice that the date on the phone has reverted to default). Then again, I am not going to hold my breath until a pig flies overhead...	John H (8)
229547	2004-04-16 04:16:00	The guy was correct, they search for a clear channel so having the WAP running first is a good idea. Ooh look - a pig just flew past the window ... good luck.	godfather (25)
229548	2004-04-16 06:26:00	Well chaps, a pig just flew over Papanui as well. I think it must have been the 2.4Ghz phone not being set up properly. The network has been up without pause all afternoon, since I powered down the phone and powered it up again some time later. Too much to be a coincidence I think? Thinks... Nervously tries to contact the house laptop and it is still up. When can I uncross my fingers.... Thanks for your assistance. John	John H (8)
229549	2004-04-18 09:43:00	Oh dear. It was a false alarm. The same problem has re-occurred, and nothing I have done can fix it. Getting rid of power etc to the 2.4Ghz phone does not solve the problem at all. I wonder if the neighbours are using such a phone? Or whether my WAP is dying? Maybe I should dig a trench and a bore hole in the wall of the house and the office and lay a cable. It may be cheaper in the long run. The only problem is I would have to move a great deal of my stack of winter firewood to get the best lay for the cable. Sigh...	John H (8)
229550	2004-04-19 04:39:00	I don't trust porcine aviators either. So they behaved like pigeons after all.:D	Graham L (2)
229551	2004-04-19 05:19:00	True . I called the local wireless expert in ChCh, and he says that wireless networks are being stuffed all over the place because of the proliferation of 2 . 4Ghz phones, and other new wireless networks . He is constantly having to attend and problems solve these breakdowns of networks that were formerly quite successful . His informed guess is that one of my neighbours has purchased one of these damned phones or there is a competing network in the vicinity . He recommended I change my WAP channels . I told him I had already changed from 6 to 8 but he said that they can overlap as many as four channels so I should go up or down to the extremes . I have channels 1 to 11 available and have tried both 1 and 11, as well as 6 and 8, but still no joy . I think I am reduced to laying a cable, which is what I should have done when I laid the telephone cable when I had the outside office built, but I already had a functioning WLAN at that stage and didn't see the point . It wasn't broke so I didn't fix it . Hindsight is 20:20, eh? The problem is that the logical route for a cable is behind about 6 metres of firewood . . . Having stacked it once already I don't want to break the stack down and rebuild it! John	John H (8)
229552	2004-04-19 05:29:00	You could try making your links more directional. If your base unit has exposed antennae, a simple reflector (made from cardboard and aluminium foil) could give you much better signal strength. Try a few searches on Google, which should find a number of sites with plans. "wifi antenna", "wifi reflector", "wifi homebuilt", etc, might work.	Graham L (2)
229553	2004-04-19 06:26:00	That is the next thing that the wireless guy suggested, though he thought it may be overkill in the circs. His site is: yobbo.co.nz I may give it a go anyway, because it is going to be a long time before I use up sufficient firewood to lay the cable, and I already have an antenna outside on the office verandah post so the wiring is already there. Thanks again.	John H (8)
229554	2004-04-19 06:34:00	Unless the wiring you already have uses VERY expensive coax cabling (and not ordinary TV coax) it simply will not work. I note that is also stated on the site linked in your post. Of course you could always just drape the cable behing/under/over the firewood and bury it when winter is over. And the ground in Papanui will have thawed by then. Putting it in some garden hose would be adequate protection for naw.	godfather (25)
229555	2004-04-19 06:54:00	>Unless the wiring you already have uses VERY expensive coax cabling (and not ordinary TV coax) it simply will not work . Do you mean the wire to the antenna gf? If so, it was the wireless guy that made up that extension lead for me, because I need the adapter at each end to connect the WAP to the antenna and he made up the cable . It does work, very well, so he must have used the cable he recommended on his web site ;-) >Of course you could always just drape the cable behing/under/over the firewood and bury it when winter is over . And the ground in Papanui will have thawed by then . Wow, that is pretty cheeky . Seeing you live in Big Island I will forgive you though - clearly you live on the Mainland with me so you understand these things . and yes, draping over the firewood may be a good idea . >Putting it in some garden hose would be adequate protection for naw . Naw as opposed to thaw . . . Not a bad idea gf - I was going to get some electrical conduit pipe which is what I put the underground telephone cable in, but hose would be cheaper and more flexible for firewood draping . Ta In the time it has taken to type this, the network has gone down three times . Grrrr .	John H (8)
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