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| 229978 | 2004-04-17 13:48:00 | Yeah, I should really learn to install hardware myself. Know where I could learn how to, other than stuffing around in my own computer?? |
Ollie123 (4243) | ||
| 229979 | 2004-04-17 13:50:00 | Find an old dead computer and rip it apart. see if you can identify the pieces of hardware. Installing a video card is easier then falling off a log. |
metla (154) | ||
| 229980 | 2004-04-18 01:16:00 | Take a look at this!! Graphics Core 256-bit Memory Interface 256-bit Memory Bandwidth 35.2 GB/sec. Fill Rate 6.4 billion texels/sec. Vertices per Second 600 Million Memory Data Rate 1100 MHz Pixels per Clock (peak) 16 Textures per Pixel* 16 RAMDACs 400 MHz *Maximum in a single rendering pass The GForce 6800 ultra |
Ollie123 (4243) | ||
| 229981 | 2004-04-18 10:11:00 | Yes, but there would be the unfortunate circumstance of it not being out yet, and also, that little problem with it being about $1000 im sure. Apart from that, it looks sweet! ****** **** Oop, just have to wipe off that slobber ;-) Also, it has a 512mb version!!! |
mejobloggs (264) | ||
| 229982 | 2004-04-18 11:04:00 | Hey, anybody want my old NVidia GeForce 4 MX440, 64MB graphics card!!! Once I get my new one,- ATI Radeon 9600/9800 pro/xt, GeForce FX 5700/5900/5950 Ultra 128Mb/256Mb Haven't decided yet, got to start comparing prices/stats. Don't really want to get caught up in shipping too far so could we keep it near timaru for selling the MX440. |
Ollie123 (4243) | ||
| 229983 | 2004-04-18 11:10:00 | Nuts, where is timaru? Hehe. I am in whangaparaoa. How much are you wanting for it? | mejobloggs (264) | ||
| 229984 | 2004-04-18 11:18:00 | Don't really care what price it goes for, just have to compete with anybody else that wants it! Have to say I never heard of Whangaparaoa. Guessing it's in the North Island?? |
Ollie123 (4243) | ||
| 229985 | 2004-04-18 22:30:00 | > 128mb cards are faster than 256mb, because the 256mb > cards use cheaper ram or something. Hey man what you smoking because I will have some. What a stupid thing to say when you dont back it up with facts. The memory is all the same and more of a thing is always better because the textures can then fit inside all the memory instead of having to be transferred all the time. Even it if was a little slower overall the extra memory would be a major advantage. > Do not get a 5200, or even a 5200 Ultra, or 5600 / > Ultra. The best bet is a 5700 / Ultra, or if you have > a spare $1000 floating around, wait for that new 6800 Well my 5900 Ultra did not even cost $1000 back 6 months ago so if someone is trying to sell lower rated cards for $1000 they would not be selling too many. > I am not sure if any game really needs 256mb video > ram, so I don't know if getting a 128mb is worth the > extra speed. Unsure on all that. There are quite a few. Far Cry is the first but all of them benifet from extra memory by getting higher frame rates. Also you can turn all the eye candy on. Always go for the biggest you can afford and then add a little. > Radeon supposedly still has the best image quality as > well. The graphics card alone is not what gives the final quality. It is a combination of the card, the drivers, how the game is written, and most importantly the monitor you are looking at. Updating drivers can make a huge difference to the quality of the graphics. As can how the game was written to take best affect of what platform it is going to be run on. |
Big John (551) | ||
| 229986 | 2004-04-18 22:48:00 | > > 128mb cards are faster than 256mb, because the > 256mb > > cards use cheaper ram or something . > > Hey man what you smoking because I will have some . > What a stupid thing to say when you dont back it up > with facts . The memory is all the same and more of a > thing is always better because the textures can then > fit inside all the memory instead of having to be > transferred all the time . Even it if was a little > slower overall the extra memory would be a major > advantage . Its common practice for a card of the same model to have lower spec ram on release,its also common for the card with more ram to bench slower . And its very uncommon for any application to come within a light year of using 128mb of ram let alone 256mb . Infact with my 64mb video card i was only able to get one game to not work by loading her up enough to get a msg that i had not enough video ram . |
metla (154) | ||
| 229987 | 2004-04-18 23:06:00 | > > 128mb cards are faster than 256mb, because the > 256mb > > cards use cheaper ram or something. > > Hey man what you smoking because I will have some. > What a stupid thing to say when you dont back it up > with facts. The memory is all the same and more of a > thing is always better because the textures can then > fit inside all the memory instead of having to be > transferred all the time. Even it if was a little > slower overall the extra memory would be a major > advantage. I think you'll find that you are actually incorrect. E.g The Radeon 9800pro when release was released in both 256mb and 128mb versions. The 256mb version used DDR2 thus was considerably more expensive. It offered no preformance increase what so ever, and sold very slowly. It was only moron who thought that bigger numbers were better that brought it. In some cases the 256mb version offered worse preformance because of its higher latencies. www20.tomshardware.com www20.tomshardware.com > > > Do not get a 5200, or even a 5200 Ultra, or 5600 / > > Ultra. The best bet is a 5700 / Ultra, or if you > have > > a spare $1000 floating around, wait for that new > 6800 > > Well my 5900 Ultra did not even cost $1000 back 6 > months ago so if someone is trying to sell lower > rated cards for $1000 they would not be selling too > many. I think what he is trying to say is that the 6800 when released will cost around $1000. > > > I am not sure if any game really needs 256mb video > > ram, so I don't know if getting a 128mb is worth > the > > extra speed. Unsure on all that. > > There are quite a few. Far Cry is the first but all > of them benifet from extra memory by getting higher > frame rates. Also you can turn all the eye candy on. > Always go for the biggest you can afford and then add > a little. Ok i think its about time we find out how much you really know about graphics cards. When buying a graphics card first of all you need to decide on your chipset e.g 5700 or 9600. Then you need to take a look at the speed of the core and the ram. For example the Radeon 9600XT has a core speed of 500Mhz and the RAM has a speed of 300mhz, but because it uses DDR it is effectively doubled giving a speed of 600mhz. Some manufactuers (Gexcube, Powercolour, HIS) have started overclocking the RAM to give better preformance, as on most cards the RAM is the bottleneck. The RAM is unable to transfer the data quick enough to keep up with the GPU. This increase in RAM speeds can often offer a 10-20% preformance increase. Many manufactuers will often realease 128mb and 256mb version but too keep price down (more ram means more money) the ram is run at a slower speed(slower ram cost less, e.g DDR266 is cheaper than DDR500). So because of their slower memory they often offer poor preformance. The Radeon 9800XT and Geforce FX5950 have shown at very high resolutions and high levels of AA and AF to offer small preformance increases when equiped with 256mb of RAM. > > Radeon supposedly still has the best image quality > as > > well. > > The graphics card alone is not what gives the final > quality. It is a combination of the card, the > drivers, how the game is written, and most > importantly the monitor you are looking at. Updating > drivers can make a huge difference to the quality of > the graphics. As can how the game was written to take > best affect of what platform it is going to be run > on. Oh come on it has been proven over and over again that the Geforce series cant do AA and AF for peanuts. Dont get me started on drivers cause we all know that nVidia cheats. It actually has nothing to do with the game, more to do with which card has the best support for the chosen API. e.g nVidia have appauling DX9 support and thus their image quality isnt as good as ATI's nor is its preformance. But when OpenGL is used the tables are turned. |
Pete O'Neil (250) | ||
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