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| Thread ID: 44349 | 2004-04-16 09:59:00 | Xandros, the (ongoing) saga of trying to install Kshowmail | Terry Porritt (14) | Press F1 |
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| 229801 | 2004-04-17 10:09:00 | > So all this just to install a simple email program. Oh Terry, you are just about putting me off! :O :D > Now all you gurus please tell me what is so marvellous about Linux. > It reminds me of my motor biking days when I used to spend more time tinkering and rebuilding and tuning and 'making' and 'installing' parts and 'configuring' my Vincent Black Shadow come Black Lightning than actually going out on the road and riding it. Well that's what most people who use Linux seem to do - fiddle with it endlessly. Including me. :p :D > BUT after all that it isnt what I want LMAO! I bet you didn't know whether to laugh or cry. :p :D Still, think of how much of a learning experience it was. If not for you, then it is for us. :p What we need now is a program to be able listen to your HTOTW in Linux. ;-) |
Susan B (19) | ||
| 229802 | 2004-04-17 10:23:00 | No problem there Susan, there is a Linux version of Real Player, so HTOTW in Linux is go. There is a but though. Although Xandros detected the chip of my Triplex Windows sound card it couldnt of course (?) provide the 5.1 sound and the soundcard software for setting and testing surround sound, and Triplex dont provide Linux software. Also the sound is noticeably inferior and tinny compared to using Windows. Hardware support is the big Linux drawback. So I have to switch to WinXP if I want to get good sound, and fire up a win98 comp to use the scanner. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 229803 | 2004-04-18 23:59:00 | > Just to mention that xandros doesnt have gcc. Then why did make start compiling? Personally I think Linux has pretty good hardware support out-of-the-box. All hardware Ive had to use so far has come with drivers except for the family's WinModem, and that's hardly the fault of Linux when Doze doesnt even come with drivers for the bloody chipset :-( |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 229804 | 2004-04-19 04:35:00 | All depends on your hardware Chill, it's not just a question of drivers either but the other software associated with the hardware. As I mentioned before, my ClickSmart 420 web/digital cam is not supported, Canoscan FB310 is not supported , 5.1 sound on my Triplex s/c is not supported and to boot the sound is not that good at all compared with that using the pukka drivers and software for Windows 98 or XP. The other gripe I have with Xandros is the lousy micro-sized fonts, it is a real eye strain. I noticed that Foxmail 5 is now available for Windows. I tried using Crossover to install and run it, also the earlier version 4.1 but had the error message : STG_E_FILENOTFOUND when trying to set up an account. There is some problem with storage file size, but havent tracked it down yet. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 229805 | 2004-04-19 04:54:00 | The hardware support problems are: (i) manufacturers, some of which won't release the essential information to write the software handlers . Some popular hardware is supported only because very clever people managed to reverse engineer it . (ii) rare or very new hardware . Most of the programming is by volunteers, who will write handlers for equipment they have bought, and then for hardware which is very popular . I'm sure that 5 . 1 sound support is on the way . :D Some manufacturers are learning that they can increase their sales by providing handlers for Linux . Others don't learn . (iii) Old/obsolete hardware . If it didn't get support while it was current, it's unlikely to get it . A lot of hardware isn't usable with Windows XP . (iii) Users . ;-) It's a good idea to check before buying hardware that it is supported in Linux . There will always be hardware with the well-earned rating of "Paperweight" in the support lists . :D |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 229806 | 2004-04-19 05:06:00 | >> Just to mention that xandros doesnt have gcc. > >Then why did make start compiling? Well on the free version off Pc autority, it doesnt have gcc, as i installed it on my brothers comp. (then we didnt see the comp for a week because the hd went bye bye) |
ilikelinux (1418) | ||
| 229807 | 2004-04-19 07:01:00 | >>BUT after all that it isnt what I want Isn't that always the case. After finally downloading all the files it needs to compile, getting it to compile, getting it to run, the program isn't what you want... Don't you know C Terry? I'm sure if you get "C in 21 days" you'll have the program into shape in... oh... 12 months time... :D |
Dolby Digital (160) | ||
| 229808 | 2004-04-19 07:04:00 | >> if I want to get good sound Got the source for the sound driver... see my comment above! |
Dolby Digital (160) | ||
| 229809 | 2004-04-19 08:45:00 | Hi Terry, Glad to hear ( see ?:| ) that you have sorted kshowmail, but I'm fairly certain you only asked for a program capable of viewing mail prior to download :D Are you having problems with your soundcard after downloading ALSA (the linux sound card server) or haven't you updated your system yet? If you have yet to get the patches don't download ALSA until you have installed the updated kernel as this will wipe it out and you will merely have to download ALSA again. |
Gorela (901) | ||
| 229810 | 2004-04-19 12:31:00 | > The other gripe I have with Xandros is the lousy > micro-sized fonts, it is a real eye strain. I posted a fix for the mozilla fonts problem here (pressf1.pcworld.co.nz) if you missed it. |
bmason (508) | ||
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