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Thread ID: 44333 2004-04-16 05:26:00 Sound Jerky While Modem Dialing pmchapman (2942) Press F1
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229641 2004-04-16 06:25:00 I've just installed and am using a free player from here
quinnware.com
I've just come on line,and was pleased to notice that there was no stutter when the modem started up,as it usually happens.Playing a cd. Win ME,800mhz.
But am yet to try it playing a music file.
Neil McC (178)
229642 2004-04-16 06:28:00 Everyone can't be experienciong this stutter, considering that most modems are Winmodems!?! pmchapman (2942)
229643 2004-04-16 06:38:00 Sorry,pmchapman.It does still stutter a little while playing a file.
:-(
Neil McC (178)
229644 2004-04-16 07:09:00 >
> There are such things as real hardware internal PCI
> modems however, but they are not generally available.
> I have seen them advertised in the US, but never sold
> retail here. Its possible they do not comply with the
> NZ requirements, but not sure.


www.computermedic.co.nz

The problem is that people don't want them,they consider external modems as superior to internal modems,without any understanding of the differing chipsets.

Try to sell them a more expensive pci modem and they will tell you if they wanted to spend more money they would buy an external modem.

Try and explain the difference and prepare to be greeted with the blank stare that means they lost where you were heading as soon as you started......
metla (154)
229645 2004-04-16 07:37:00 Thats interesting metla, I thought they were unavailable here.

Thats also a very reasonable price for a full hardware modem. I simply cannot understand why anyone would buy a soft modem, they obviously have little understanding of the difference as you say.

Personally I found that the WinModem/Softmodems made a very satisfying "clunk" when I threw them in the rubbish bin after many a futile attempt to make them work consistently.

Prior to going Jetstream I had changed to external hardware modems (as I purchased them in lots of 100 they were reasonably priced, but still over double the cost of that one). The reliability and consistent performance of a good hardware modem was a welcome relief.
godfather (25)
229646 2004-04-16 08:24:00 I got rid of my external modem because it was only 33 KBP anbd the serial port on my old machine was only 28000 Kbp. You just can't win with computers :-(

I was hoping it was a BIOS or a Driver problem. At least that doesn't cost the price of a new modem to fix. I still find it wierd how some computers don't stutter (The neighbours P100 doesnt stutter with the same Winmodem, which I think is very weird!)
pmchapman (2942)
229647 2004-04-16 09:34:00 I've found this thread interesting, as I, too, suffer from the problem.

I use a Conexant HCF modem, on an 800MHz Celeron CPU. I've noticed that several people said their CPUs were Celerons (wondering if that could be related), and I too do not see how the software interaction with the winmodem could place such a high load on a CPU.

What I've noticed, however, is that I suffer the same problem when disabling my network card via Device Manager (disabling a LAN connection does the same thing, never tried it simply by unplugging the network cable), and that lead me to believe that the underlying issue was not simply the matter of using a winmodem. Whether it be my motherboard, the CPU, or some combination of things, I don't know, but I find it can be quite annoying when there is bad line quality while I'm playing MP3s ;)
agent (30)
229648 2004-04-17 07:48:00 Thanks for the explanations. One thing still puzzles me, though. Can you have a soundcard with hardware MP3 decoding that takes the process off the CPU, thereby negating the competition for resources? If I'm right, this would avoid the stutter regardless of whether a hardware modem was present. Am I right?

Lizard
Lizard (2409)
229649 2004-04-17 07:58:00 Yes Hardware Decoding is available on some upper-end cards.

But at the price of the modem in Metla's link, why would you bother?
godfather (25)
229650 2004-04-17 09:12:00 > Everyone can't be experienciong this stutter,
> considering that most modems are Winmodems!?!

You are correct in saying most modems are Winmodems. I have only ever used one PCI Modem in my system and that for a reasonably short period of time. Like Godfather the modem went in the bin. This was the last noise it ever made as far as I am aware. There may have been a more satisfying noise as the D6 rolled over it at the tip but I wasn't there to hear it. :-)

Back in the dark ages I could use an ISA modem which was hardware and therefore didn't use much in the way of CPU cycles. These days I would be flat out trying to get a Motherboard (new) with an ISA slot in which to insert a modem.

Why buy a motherboard rather than an External modem anyway?

It would appear at first glance Metla may have a solution. If so then that's fine. You certainly can't fault the price.

Is it possible that some of the symtoms can be put down to the sound card?
Elephant (599)
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