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230090 2004-04-17 08:24:00 Fedora tells me that there are masses of updates available to install but refuses to download them . The error message given is that it needs 58MB of space in /filesystem .

I have no idea where this "/filesystem" place is to check why it might not have enough space and a search on Google for "filesystem" brings up lots of useful info on Linux filesystems but precious little on how to make Fedora download my updates .

On the only page that I did find a user with the same problem was advised to run yum update to download the headers and choose which ones to update . I tried that but it appeared to just keep downloading the headers in a repetitious cycle, getting nowhere .

Someone else advised this person to just run yum which is supposed to download and install the updates and he did so, leaving his PC on overnight and in the morning it was done, so he said .

Before I try this for myself does anyone here have any other ideas on how to get the update Wizard (or whatever it is called) to do its job?
dudess_on_a_mish (4468)
230091 2004-04-17 08:45:00 How much space do you have left on your Fedora partition? Enter this into a Terminal Window to find out: df -h. With the update program, which is called "up2date" you will see an option to update the kernel, what happens if you deselect that item? Kernel updates take a bit of space to uncompress in so it might contribute to your space error message.

With the yum update, it downloads all header files from a variety of sources and it takes a while when you run it for the first time. Some of the files may look like they are repeating themselves, but it should only be because that header is now being downloaded from a different repository than before (same file name though).
Jen C (20)
230092 2004-04-17 10:26:00 > How much space do you have left on your Fedora partition? Enter this into a Terminal Window to find out: df -h .

I am not sure what is what in there but this is a copy and paste:

Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb3 2 . 8G 2 . 5G 175M 94% /
/dev/hdb2 99M 6 . 2M 88M 7% /boot
none 252M 0 252M 0% /dev/shm

Looks pretty full to me, though I could have sworn I allowed 5GB for Linux . From those figures it must have been just 3GB . :-(


> With the update program, which is called "up2date" you will see an option to update the kernel, what happens if you deselect that item?

I get a Warning dialogue box containing a big long list of packages headed by the depressing message: "Test install failed because of package conflicts" .

All the the package header names end with "needs XMB on the / filesystem" .

I guess I just haven't got enough room? :-(
dudess_on_a_mish (4468)
230093 2004-04-17 12:13:00 It looks like you do have a full house. With only 175 MB of space left, I wouldn't try running up2date or yum update at all.

It seems that distro's are getting more feature and package rich, and even with a standard desktop installation they take up a fair bit of space unless you do a custom install and trim things right down. You could run redhat-config-packages, click on the "update system" icon and then remove some packages but you probably wouldn't gain much space back.
Jen C (20)
230094 2004-04-18 03:18:00 terminology: Su, the "/ file system" is the whole structure of directories based on the root of the file system, which has the name "/dev/hdb3") and is the mount point "/" . You will see that the separate "boot" partition which has the name "/dev/hdb2" is actually mounted as "/boot" .

If you have space on the disk (the second IDE drive on your machine) or even on another HD on the machine, you could (with a bit of fiddling ;-)) make it hold the "/usr" and, say, "/home" areas, which would make the size of the "/" system greater by that much .
Graham L (2)
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