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Thread ID: 44385	2004-04-17 07:52:00	Adding RAM to DELL 4600?	Vince (406)	Press F1

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230077	2004-04-18 13:16:00	Chances are you are unauthorized service personnel. By authorized they would mean them or their warranty agents. Just because the instructions are there I wouldn't imagine it making much difference. Call them and check maybe?	whiskeytangofoxtrot (438)
230078	2004-04-18 23:20:00	What O/S was running on your old PC ? should be a lot faster on XP unless the program doesnt like it	kiwibeat (304)
230079	2004-04-19 01:01:00	> Of course it will also void your warranty I'd > imagine . That is gross misinformation and a really unhelpful and unnecessary post WTF! You imagine wrong . This issue has been covered many times on PF1 and you should know better, given the length of time you have been posting here during which there has been more than one foray into this territory . Adding RAM to a new computer will not void any warranty Vince, not more than would adding software or attaching peripherals . Provided you do not cause damage through static discharge or other 10-thumbed activities, the act of opening up a new computer to install RAM, floppy drives or to upgrade a CD-RW to say a DVD-RW does not invalidate any warranty . Naturally the manufacturer/supplier will not warrant your added components, but they cannot refuse to honour warranty on any other component that may fail, or for any aspect of the original build and set-up that fails for perform to spec . Ill-informed or shonky manufacturers might try it on with you, or try to blame your additions, but persistence and knowledge of your rights under the Consumer Guarantees Act will see you through . Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
230080	2004-04-19 03:37:00	> That is gross misinformation and a really unhelpful > and unnecessary post WTF! > > You imagine wrong . Get down off your high horse before I pull out the stepladder that you used to climb on it . > This issue has been covered many times on PF1 and you > should know better, given the length of time you have > been posting here during which there has been more > than one foray into this territory . Unlike yourself I don't live here, and don't read every thread written . If you're going to whinge about this why don't you whinge in all the other repeat threads that turn up every 2 or 3 days . > Adding RAM to a new computer will not void any > warranty Vince, not more than would adding software > or attaching peripherals . Most places like that are pretty stringent about who they do and do not let service their computers . He said unauthorised service personnel, and chances are he isn't qualified or 'Dell Authrosied' hence my advice that is probably would void it, and to check with them . A lot of the bulk manufactured PC's are secured with warranty void tamper seals to prevent people opening them, I hardly think they do it for decorative purposes .	whiskeytangofoxtrot (438)
230081	2004-04-19 11:25:00	Sorry WhiskeyTango Foxtrotter you are talking through a hole in your proverbial backside I have experience of computers by such manufacturers as Dell, HP, Compaq and Packard Bell and ALL have said it is fine to add more RAM to them without voiding the warranty	StevieRay (4739)
230082	2004-04-19 11:54:00	>>The manual dosn't say so, just that it will effect performance. Does someone have the answer to my question? You should contact Dell's helpdesk to check the warranty situation. We could debate it here all night but a quick call (to India) should give you the company policy.	Dolby Digital (160)
230083	2004-04-19 12:30:00	Ringing them would be the best idea, but they do have instructions for changing RAM, here (support.ap.dell.com) J :D	Jester (13)
230084	2004-04-19 17:43:00	> Get down off your high horse before I pull out the > stepladder that you used to climb on it. > > Unlike yourself I don't live here, and don't read > every thread written. If you're going to whinge about > this why don't you whinge in all the other repeat > threads that turn up every 2 or 3 days. > There is something very negative about your posts WTF. In my opinion you are in breach of the rule to 'keep it nice' in this forum. > > > Adding RAM to a new computer will not void any > > warranty Vince, not more than would adding > software > > or attaching peripherals. > That is what I thought, but I would be responsible for any problems that I caused and I was being cautious with my brand new computer. > > Most places like that are pretty stringent about who > they do and do not let service their computers. He > said unauthorised service personnel, and chances are > he isn't qualified or 'Dell Authrosied' hence my > advice that is probably would void it, and to check > with them. > The instrucions in the user manual without any warnings ,other than to install RAM in matched pairs, should constitute consent by DELL. > > A lot of the bulk manufactured PC's are secured with > warranty void tamper seals to prevent people opening > them, I hardly think they do it for decorative > purposes. > There were no anti-tamper seals. DELL has made the case very easy to open. Perhaps WTF you should confine yourself to 'friendly' comments on matters that you know for sure. Posted without spell checking; the first time clicking 'Spell Check made everything dissapear and I had to type it all again!!	Vince (406)
230085	2004-04-19 17:48:00	I have solved the problem by buying a second RAM card (I'm not sure if it is SIM or DIM) I now have 768MB of system RAM installed and working. Vince	Vince (406)
230086	2004-04-19 23:51:00	I wasn't going to bother to respond to you WTF because you are without doubt the most aggressive and irrational person currently posting on PF1, others had already taken you to task for your attitude, and I didn't want to feed your emotional disturbance . However threats like: > Get down off your high horse before I pull out the > stepladder that you used to climb on it . are just too nasty to ignore, and unlike some of your other victims on PF1 (and victims is exactly what they are, because you are a classic playground/workplace bully) I don't go away that easy . I dedicated many years of my working life to fighting bullies like you, then helping their victims recover their self esteem . I am not only big enough to stand up to you, I'm smart enough and trained enough to recognise that you have a major anger management problem that hopefully one day you will finally recognise and take yourself off for some professional help . I sure hope you do, because it is not a happy way to spend a life, trapped inside a self-perpetuating sea of aggression . Your choice of user name gives clear view of your attitudes . > Unlike yourself I don't live here, and don't read > every thread written . If you're going to whinge about > this why don't you whinge in all the other repeat > threads that turn up every 2 or 3 days . The issue here was not repeat threads, that is the nature of PF1 as new users come and grow . That is why we have FAQs, but we also answer patiently and thoroughly many basic questions from new users that have been answered probably hundreds of times before . The issue was that you posted an inaccurate and unhelpful response that a person of your experience almost certainly should have known was not correct . > Most places like that are pretty stringent about who > they do and do not let service their computers . He > said unauthorised service personnel, and chances are > he isn't qualified or 'Dell Authrosied' hence my > advice that is probably would void it, and to check > with them . I started my respnse to your first post shortly after it appeared, but because I was working I couldn't post my reply until later . It wasn't until the page refreshed that I saw your subsequent posts . So why didn't you start with the last post first? IMV you just tossed of a flippant and unhelpful response and that is why I criticised it . > A lot of the bulk manufactured PC's are secured with > warranty void tamper seals to prevent people opening > them, I hardly think they do it for decorative > purposes . No, they don't do it for decorative purposes, they do it in an attempt to discourage owners from using their own initiative and knowledge . It is also possible that they do it out of ignorance of New Zealand Consumer Law, but regardless, their warnings have no legal status . It would probably be different if it were a seal on an HDD or DVD drive, because the avarage user is not competent to effect any sort of repair or modification to those devices and is almost certainly going to cause damage . The situation is different also for commercial technology purchased for business and outside the provisions of the CGA . Break those seals at your peril as you have very little protection or recourse if the supplier declares the warranty void . So why not just settle down and keep it friendly as the Mods have asked you to do? It makes for a happier and easier life for all concerned . There are plenty of other Forums where you can go for flaming relief or a good fight, and there you will probably get back as good as you give . Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
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