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Thread ID: 131881	2013-05-05 02:03:00	Dangerous Roads	Woody (710)	PC World Chat

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1339711	2013-05-05 02:03:00	Having previously been 26 years in an occupation where a large part of my job has been off-road driving in mud/ snow/ rocks I enjoy a television programme called "Dangerous Roads". Some of the roads shown are indeed very hairy but many very similar to those which I used to encounter. However, I find it intriguing that while the programme often has sequences of extreme mud or snow with the vehicles becoming bogged to varying degrees - never a sign of tyre chains. Fascinating !	Woody (710)
1339712	2013-05-05 07:40:00	if you watch their other show ice road you will see plenty of chains	gary67 (56)
1339713	2013-05-05 08:36:00	Maybe those vehicles had snow tyres?	WalOne (4202)
1339714	2013-05-05 21:15:00	Maybe those vehicles had snow tyres?Do snow tyres work as well as chains?	Bobh (5192)
1339715	2013-05-05 21:29:00	Do snow tyres work as well as chains? No but they are better than normal tyres in snow, still not great on ice though	gary67 (56)
1339716	2013-05-05 21:36:00	This from Tirerack.com "Today's Studless Ice and Snow tires utilize the latest tread designs and compounds to provide excellent traction in severe snow and ice conditions. These tires also perform well on dry roads, which is the primary downside to using tire chains. Tire chains are good for temporary use only but for everyday driving, winter / snow tires are a better solution for the following reasons: Safer driving on dry roads Proper fitment for each vehicle No need to remove tires on clear days Will not damage roads and driveways" And from the same source "Tire chains provide good traction in deep snow, but they severely diminish handling and traction on dry roads. Also, late model sedans and coupes have limited fender clearance compared to older vehicles which can prohibit the use of chains on many cars. Tire chains are generally antiquated for most conditions, however, there are still some useful applications such as mountain driving. For example, tire chain requirements in California depend on the severity of the snowstorm and are as follows: Requirement one: Snow tires or chains are required. Requirement two: Chains are required on all vehicles except four-wheel drive vehicles equipped with snow tires on all four wheels. Requirement three: Chains are required on all vehicles, no exception. Note: According to California guidelines, requirement one and two are the most common conditions because the highway is usually closed to traffic before the third requirement is imposed." The main negative for snow tires seems to be the cost. I've only ever used chains and they're a pain to fit properly. Bu there always seemed to be enough enterprising types around to do the work for a nominal $5 a tire or so.	WalOne (4202)
1339717	2013-05-05 21:59:00	My Ezifit chains take less than 5mins to fit both sides of the car, a huge improvement on the old style chains	gary67 (56)
1339718	2013-05-05 22:37:00	I would give that Lisa one on dangerous roads.	prefect (6291)
1339719	2013-05-05 22:48:00	I would give that Lisa one on dangerous roads.So would I	gary67 (56)
1339720	2013-05-05 22:55:00	Having had to use chains one year over the Lewis Pass coming back from the west coast, the worst things I found was that you had to limit your speed to about 30-40km per hour and it shook the hell out of your car and all those in it - thank goodness it was a rental lol . I owned a little Nissan Lucino hatch/wagon/thing quite a few years ago, it was a Jap import and came with snow tires on (they seem to like them over there) I did over 100,000kms in it and when I sold the car, it still had the same tyres on it and still passed wofs . Found them great tyres and the car handled well . My Mazda SP20 also came with snow tyres, they lasted about 10,000kms before I had to replace them, they were rubbish . I would give that Lisa one on dangerous roads . Was waiting for someone to say that lol .	Iantech (16386)
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