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Thread ID: 131692 2013-05-04 07:21:00 Laying pipe for fibre Paul.Cov (425) PC World Chat
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1339630 2013-05-04 07:21:00 Hi folks,

I find myself in the position of maybe digging a trench to replace water supply pipes for a line of retirement homes. It seems to be the perfect opportunity to lay a line for future fibre installation. Odds are only one of the current residents has internet, but the next generation of owners will all likely be online and wanting broadband.

It seems a shame to dig this trench now and to be again faced with digging the same line at a later date for the inevitable fibre insall, so I'm wondering about what size and grade of pipe should be laid now for a future fibre run.

Is the white, low pressure, low diameter Marley stuff ok, or should a heavier grade of pipe be used?
Any minimum diameter?
Any minimum bend radius at the junctions?
Should water pipes and fibre share the same tube, or just bury the water in the soil?

Any suggestions or standards that need to be applied?

Any need for drain holes on the bottom side of the pipe to get rid of water from condensation?

Thanks.
Paul.Cov (425)
1339631 2013-05-04 08:26:00 I would contact Chorus.
:)
Trev (427)
1339632 2013-05-04 08:35:00 Yeah to be honest I would get in touch with them too. There's a good chance they could blow fibre in certain circumstances, so have a chat with them about it. May take a bit of ringing around, but it's well worth doing! IMO you're doing the right thing :) Chilling_Silence (9)
1339633 2013-05-04 09:51:00 The underground plastic pipes are coloured for a reason...Identification. Red-Fibre. Orange -mains electric. Yellow-Gas. Green-Telephone. Blue-Water. There are others.

You could contact the Gas Co as well. to lay their pipe in the same trench. PJ
Poppa John (284)
1339634 2013-05-05 00:54:00 If you want to lay pipe for fibre just eat lots of weetbix



....sorry couldn't resist.
rob_on_guitar (4196)
1339635 2013-05-05 01:59:00 You need to get Chorus involved. They will not run fiber in un approved cable. Alex B (15479)
1339636 2013-05-05 03:09:00 To get Chorus involved, you may have to slaughter a chicken and show them the entrails while explaining with a large club. They are a pretty primitive bunch of savages. ;) R2x1 (4628)
1339637 2013-05-05 07:08:00 If you want to lay pipe for fibre just eat lots of weetbix



. . . . sorry couldn't resist .

Yeah, I was wondering how long it would take . I couldn't think of the word "conduit" when I wrote the original post, and then sometime after realised the unfortunate expression I'd used instead .

Lucky this forum is so clean (mostly) .
Paul.Cov (425)
1339638 2013-05-28 02:27:00 In case you haven't found the specs yet:
www.chorus.co.nz
or if you are rural:
www.chorus.co.nz
W1NcH (17069)
1339639 2013-05-28 05:05:00 Yeah, thanks. I found the Chorus PDFs a few days ago.

Also Marley is making the green high pressure pipes (conduits) for Chorus, but is not making them available to the public. The same identical pipes in white are easily available.

Key trap is the bends, which need a bend radius of 32cm or greater (although the standard seems to vary in different council areas). These can be bought, or with a bending spring inserted into the pipe and applying heat it is possible to bend the pipe manually (the spring is to prevent the pipe collapsing when bent).

Also it seems that a single conduit is not allowed to share fibre for 4 different consumers, so it's required to lay 4 conduits, all running parallel to each other as the trench goes the length of the 4 units. The local council is making us do the same BS with the water, despite the existing arrangement being a single line supplying all 4 units they dictate that each unit must have it's own pipe from the road frontage.

Depth for fibre if I recall was 450mm, or 300mm if under concrete.

Seems the various authorities in play are determined to make the rules demand the most expensive and most disruptive options for these various 'services'.
Paul.Cov (425)
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