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| Thread ID: 44562 | 2004-04-23 02:51:00 | P4 or AMD | dwnz2003 (5250) | Press F1 |
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| 231407 | 2004-04-25 09:40:00 | Yea cuz if you buy everything else first you could buy a good motherboard that doesn't support the CPU that you want | dwnz2003 (5250) | ||
| 231408 | 2004-04-25 10:11:00 | Mirror mirror | mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 231409 | 2004-04-25 10:19:00 | Based on the grammatrical ability of responses to my post (mikebart excluded) I will assume that the repliers are incapable of logical or lateral thought. Outcome: I will not bother as it would be like explaining televisions to bushmen |
whetu (237) | ||
| 231410 | 2004-04-25 10:45:00 | > Based on the grammatrical ability of responses to my > post (mikebart excluded) I will assume that the > repliers are incapable of logical or lateral > thought. > > Outcome: I will not bother as it would be like > explaining televisions to bushmen Why resort to personal jibes? Your theory doesn't have to make sense to anyone but yourself, it’s logic is to me ass backwards but so what? |
metla (154) | ||
| 231411 | 2004-04-25 10:52:00 | Lets see if a compromise can work. As per whetu's advice you need to plan out what you want to achieve then, work backwards. While I don't discount the CPU's importance, chipset and motherboard are IMO the most important decisions you need to make along with ram and graphics depending on your usage. So, you've established what your going to be using the thing for, other than hiding the ink stain on your desk that is, line up an AMD & Intel CPU and work back to a chipset, ram, graphjics card and motherboard. And don't forget a decent PSU and case. For me it's Asus with nForce chipset which means AMD. Which suits me fine because I have a soft spot for the AMD underdog (and it runs Linux as well as doze JJJJJ ;) ) and it fitted nicely with my budget. You might arrive at a totally different conclusion based on different values you place on end usage. If you make your decisions around the Ford vs Holden argument then good luck to you. Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 231412 | 2004-04-25 11:04:00 | When i sit down with someone to write up a quote for a custom built computer my line of questions is pretty much as follows, Around about how much money are you looking at spending? What would you like the system to be capable of doing? The answers to these questions nearly cover it all,if they want a gaming machine then that dictates what size cpu,harddrive,amount of ram,optical drives etc etc are included in order to fit the budget. The other question i ask is if they have any preferance as to cpu,if not i recomend AMD due to the fact they get more power per dollar,unless its a machine built for the purpose of audio/video editing/encoding in which case i recomend P4. Not at any time do i ask the client what motherboard they wanted,its up to me to source one that fits the requirments of the componets already chosen,and that has performance and stability of a good enough standard for me to onsell.Its my name that suffers after all,not MSI if i sell an unstable computer. Note-I don't sell MSI products. |
metla (154) | ||
| 231413 | 2004-04-25 14:34:00 | > When i sit down with someone to write up a quote for a custom built computer my line of questions is pretty much as follows........................................... Indeed metla! I completely agree with that sales plan... I think that the reason linux users choose AMD is because its almost an open source CPU... Like myself they want to distance themselves from Intel when they piggyback microsofts spies into our computers. I can trust AMD because they aren't the ones in a "I'll pat your back if you pat mine and who cares about the customer" relationship with microsoft. But the big decision is the price. I want bang for my buck... not frilly, branded silicon... and I believe that AMD's run hotter than Intel's - HAVE YOU SEEN THE SIZE OF INTELS FREAKING HEATSINKS!!! My XP1800 heatsink was considerably smaller than that of an Intel one which is why I think people started whining that AMD's were hotter than Intel... with a bit of help from intel of course (I think it was their master plan) So basically... If you want bang for your buck... buy AMD If you don't want microsoft spying on yer... buy AMD If you want to tell MS & Intel you don't like TCPA... buy AMD If you want little frilly bits & lace on your silicon... buy Intel If you got nothing to hide - good fer you... buy Intel If you like the Ideas of TCPA... buy Intel So it also has a certain software/duopoly motive linked in there subconsiously. I like AMD... 100mhz pentium = 200Mhz athlon... my AMD @ 2.13Ghz is as fast as your frilly 2.6Ghz P4 I think this is my most civilised post yet... so uh: SUCK IT, INTEL LOVERS!!! |
hamstar (4) | ||
| 231414 | 2004-04-25 22:16:00 | I think the point really is that AMD and Intel cpu's process things slightly differently. AMD generally process more info per clock cycle than Intel. AMD also offers better bang for buck. However, most video editing software is optimised for the Intel platform which gives the P4 a huge advantage over the AMD for this task. So Metla's questions are spot on. If you want to do video editing then Intel is a better performing processor, if you want gaming you will get better performance for your money with AMD. That is not to say the P4 is crap at gaming, it just doesn't outperform the AMD by much, yet the price is higher. It's a matter of deciding what you are going to use your system for and then picking the best CPU for the job. I don't think people should choose a cpu based on who Microsoft deals with. Intel and Microsoft are partners.....so what? As long as the Intel CPU does the job I want then I don't care who they partner with. |
Sb0h (3744) | ||
| 231415 | 2004-04-25 23:28:00 | I have to agree with Melta and totally disagree with Whetu theory ... It has always been the motherboard supporting the CPU not the other way. Since when motherboard manufacturer made a board and tell Intel or AMD "I've got this board, u two have to make a CPU that supports it..." It more like Intel or AMD saying "I've got this CPU with such and such spec, it'll be running on these particular chipsets and ...." If I decided on a particular motherboard, I liked it's chipset and everything and when it comes to CPU decision ... only found that it doesn't support FSB800 or Prescott, does it mean I have to put up with a lower spec CPU? CHeers |
SKT174 (1319) | ||
| 231416 | 2004-04-26 03:04:00 | you missed the point completely skt174... I suggest you go and reread what I said, because you are so far off target that it's not funny | whetu (237) | ||
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