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232084	2004-04-25 12:32:00	Scam For The Month # 1 Who here uses www.nzdsl.co.nz for their speed testing?? My recent investigations (homepages.paradise.net.nz) have shown that it is grossly incorrect and NZDSL are probably being paid a good sum by various ISPs to make it incorrect. :O Test it out for yourselves and post your relevant speed results.	PoWa (203)
232085	2004-04-25 13:06:00	3.4Kbps / .2 of a K Byte/sec difference between the two. Not enough of a difference to convince me it's a consipracy! Yours was the slower one. J :D	Jester (13)
232086	2004-04-25 13:20:00	They possibly have a faster server. Did you compare the 2 from the same server? The algorithms are stuffed, thats rigged enough IMO. To add to that, the data they are using is very compressable. Looks like a scam job to me. Try doing the maths with 492kb, instead of 500kb. Should be a little bigger difference. >Yours was the slower one. It should be, its not rigged to be fast :)	PoWa (203)
232087	2004-04-25 23:51:00	Well I just tried the two files from the Paraidise server, and your modified file gave a slightly faster speed than the nzdsl one on the same server. speedtest623 Your line speed is approximately 260 Kbps or 33 K bytes/sec speedtest500ds Your line speed is approximately 267.7 Kbps or 32.8 K bytes/sec I also tried the www.radiomods.co.nz site (it is hosted on an Ihug homepage server) and it gave me 31.91 KB/s. I'm on the 256K plan. Speeds do vary anyway depending on the network traffic and server speeds.	Jen C (20)
232088	2004-04-25 23:57:00	>.... and NZDSL are probably being paid a good sum by various ISPs to make it incorrect Oh, and I forgot to mention ... that statement is deflammatory and purely speculative. Not the sort of comments to post on a public forum without being able to back it up.	Jen C (20)
232089	2004-04-26 02:38:00	Do you have proof of the results not being consistent? If I use one ISP will it use a different mathematical formula than another ISP?	-=JM=- (16)
232090	2004-04-26 02:58:00	Why the 1.02 multiplier you ask? 1 kb decimal = 1.024 kb binary Its likely simply adjusting for the difference in decimal / binary. Arithmetic assumes decimal. The most common advertising assumes decimal. Files tend to be in binary. Also I agree with Jen. You clearly cross the line when you make such serious accusations publicly and have no supporting evidence. Not referring to the calculations here, but to the inference that it is a conspiracy that is being funded. Such statements are not helpful to you, the forum hosts, or anyone else.	godfather (25)
232091	2004-04-26 03:06:00	i like you lodgic. i dont know about if ISPs have payed to get results that are faster... i think its just that the devolipers dont know what they are doing. i am seeing about a 5% faster speed with there test Vs your test. makes you think....	robsonde (120)
232092	2004-04-26 05:41:00	> > My recent investigations have shown that it is grossly incorrect and NZDSL are probably being paid a good sum by various ISPs to make it incorrect. > Oh, and I forgot to mention ... that statement is deflammatory and purely speculative. Not the sort of comments to post on a public forum without being able to back it up. > Also I agree with Jen. You clearly cross the line when you make such serious accusations publicly and have no supporting evidence Note the keyword there probably. Thats not an accusation thats a proposition (a proposal, subject to proof or disproof, or theory if you like). No accusations being made here. Besides, if it is incorrect who are the people that would actually stand to benefit from that? Only internet service providers. Its the only logical conclusion you can come to. You two, Jen and godfather are always having a go at me and pick up on the most worthless bits of information and decide to have a rant about it. As if I care if its "defamatory", its obviously not, and what are they going to do about it? Sue me? They'd have to prove monetary loss caused by it. Then you've got the other obstacle of actually finding me. > Why the 1.02 multiplier you ask? 1 kb decimal = 1.024 kb binary > Its likely simply adjusting for the difference in decimal / binary. Arithmetic assumes decimal. The most common advertising assumes decimal. Files tend to be in binary. I don't see why thats necessary to convert it to anything. The program determines how many kilobytes were downloaded and it isn't converting it to megabytes/sec or anything. All thats needed is a simple dividor by the time taken to download.	PoWa (203)
232093	2004-04-26 05:43:00	"As if I care if its "defamatory", its obviously not, and what are they going to do about it? Sue me? They'd have to prove monetary loss caused by it. " Defamatory doesn't have to prove monetary loss - all it has to prove is that you have defamed them.	Chris Randal (521)
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