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Thread ID: 44638 2004-04-25 06:47:00 Self-built Computers. metla (154) Press F1
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232017 2004-04-29 10:45:00 Yes... Well.... Keep laughing your A off. Why not? Elephant (599)
232018 2004-04-29 10:55:00 You talking to yourself there elephant? ;) PoWa (203)
232019 2004-04-29 10:58:00 I must admit that I never built a COMPUTER from scratch. Yes modular things for me.

Quite a few years back I built a computer with 1 K RAM and LED lights that didn't do a lot. Binary maths is all. No monitor.

Before that I programmed using Fortran and COBOL on a Burroughs B3500

Never got into circuit diagrams myself. It's why I won't build a Landrover today.

Once again you are correct. 		Elephant (599)
232020 2004-04-29 11:05:00 > Has anyone wondered that they can assemble a PC, but
> when it comes to say fixing say a stereo or radio
> system they just don't know what to do???
Yes.. Me..
I can also trouble shoot operating systems. I can't though tune a video to a particular channel though.
> 		Elephant (599)
232021 2004-04-29 11:24:00 > Ok i gotta dig here,
>
> and what if it was someone like Me who wanted to make
> / build there own PC?????

So what?
>
> how long is every one going on holiday so you dont
> have to help beetle with her thousand questions on
> PF1 when it all goes wrong???
Beetle may well have questions and hopefully these may be answered.
> :D
>
> considering the fact that i dont know what these
> components look like most of the time let alone
> putting them together to resemble a computer near the
> end......
You may consider going to your local computer club for example.

> i would have to say i would be visiting Metla a lot
> to the point he will shut the shop doors and say he's
> gone to afganistan or somethink dont ya think???

Not always.
>
> i would like to one day have a home built comp but it
> may be built by some one else not me, with me as
> overseer i spose....... as i do not feel i am safe
> enough or geeky enough to put one together.
I have never thought you are dopey.

> so yeah im one of these dont touch the comp people
> Metla and others may be talking about......

Once upon a time I didn't change my computer and now I do. 		Elephant (599)
232022 2004-04-29 11:25:00 > > In this day and age the false assumption that
> > "anyone" can and should build their own PC,The
> truth
> > as i see it is do not attempt to do so unless you
> > already have the skill and ability to troubleshoot
> or
> > fix the system.
> Where do get this assumption from that building your
> own PC is the wrong thing? Not all people can build
> their own computer and quite a few people don't want
> to. Some people want to try this though. Why
> discourage people from learning?
>
> I don't think that ALL people should build their own
> computer but I certainly think that if people have
> some parts that they want to put together then I
> would not discourage that.
>
> Where are you going to get the knowledge unless you
> actually try?
> I wouldn't try bulding a LandRover out of spare parts
> as I don't have the inclination. I could maybe do so
> if I had the inclination, time, money and parts.
>
> > Its all fine and well if with a dose of good luck
> you
> > manage to get a system that boots right off the
> > bat,runs stable and doesn't have temperture
> > problems,but judging from the posts i see in here
> > they are unstable,running hot and will probally
> > continue to be crap systems for their entire
> > lifetime.
> Ummm... Building a system may not be easy but when
> you buy a motherboard you get a manual and one or
> more CD Disks.
>
> I will not say that each system I have built boots
> "right off the bat" as not all have done that. When
> it hasn't then reread manual and find out what is
> wrong. This may include asking questions on forums
> like PressF1 for example.
> > Not to mention the 5 weekly threads where people
> ask
> > why their cpu's are running at the wrong speed...
> Why can't people ask?
> >
> > After all this these people are stuck with a pc
> with
> > problems but no way of sorting them out becvause
> they
> > purchased parts only,and lacking the ability to
> build
> > the thing correctly they can't iron out its kinks
> > either.Recent threads in this forum attest to
> that.
>
> Some do and some don't
>
> > One more thing,Can all you budding system builders
> > please switch to Intel gear?,Your efforts are
> making
> > AMD look bad.
> My AMD one works for me. Please note that I have not
> needed your help on this forum. I just use AMD as I
> have never had a problem with the CPU and they cost
> less than Intel for similar specs.
>
> Please Metla. Let people do what they want.
>
> I promise not to build a Rolls-Royce in the
> meantime.
>
> The point of your post is? Maybe buy a system off you
> and let everyone not learn?
>
>
>


Thank you taking the time to disassemble my entire post and contest everything I had to say, I particularly enjoy the scrutiny you put my posts under. Top effort, basically you disagree.

Pity you failed to see any merit in anything I had to say and completely ignored my second post on the subject. But that’s not unexpected considering whom it was coming from. 		metla (154)
232023 2004-04-29 11:33:00 What you up to Elephant????


is nobody answering ????


?:|


im not building one today E .



beetle 		beetle (243)
232024 2004-04-29 11:37:00 Cut it out guys, agree to disagree.....

every body has there own opinion and you just got to learn to live with it, but dont make fights for the sake of it.

if ya cant be nice, bite ya tongue. PF1 doesnt need it.

beetle 		beetle (243)
232025 2004-05-01 09:40:00 > Indeed, as noted the word assemble would have fit
> better then build.

OK. Understand this. I assemble computers rather than build. Agreed!

> This thread was started not because i think that
> people shouldn't assemble their own systems, but I
> chose a viewpoint and used it as a catalyst to
> promote debate on the issue.

So what debate? My viewpoint isn't that anyone can do it. My point is that anyone can TRY to do it. Do you agree on this?

> This was instigated by me sitting here shaking my
> head thinking that some people just get way in over
> their heads based on the common concept that anyone
> can do it.

Where does this "common concept" come from?

> And they can, provided they know what the components
> are,where they fit, and that due care is taken.

Agreed! We might also discuss reading manuals that come with hardware and being able to read a combination of languages maybe.

To my way of thinking you need to be able to read instructions to start with a case, power supply, motherboard, cpu, video amd ram. Later you will need to add Floppy drive ( or not ) CDRom drive ( or not ). Hard drive will almost have to be put in.

> Provided that is taken care of problems only need
> arise if they have had the bad luck to have purchased
> a faulty component, that’s when the real issues start
> and people get into trouble seeing as they have
> forgone any support by purchasing parts rather a
> working computer.

So if I buy a part like an AGP card and have problems installing then I can take it back to the retailer assuming the card is faulty?

Who checks that the card is faulty?

When it comes to assemblers of computers... or Retailers... What makes you think that your warranty is worth the paper it is written on?

Please note that I am not suggesting you are going out of business next week.

Now bearing in mind that some lines above have a question mark this means it is a question would you answer? 		Elephant (599)
232026 2004-05-01 09:43:00 Hi Dipstick01.

Still enjoying my camera.

Do your own thing. Build your own thing!!!! 		Elephant (599)
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